Liverpool (A) - Sun 1st Dec, 16:00 | PL | Pre-Match Thread

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When you look at it objectively we are still creating chances and scoring goals (spuds game apart thanks to a combination of poor finishing, bad luck and a goalie having a worldie).
Our problem has been gifting goals to teams with ridiculous errors predominantly from our defensive players. There’s no doubt we are missing a bit of bite and physicality in the middle of the park but our defenders (Gvardiol in particular) have been repeatedly guilty of overplaying and that’s what has ultimately got us into trouble.
With the scouse feral fans on their back the pressure will be even greater on our defensive players and I just hope we go back to the basics, row Z defending if necessary. If and it’s a big if we can approach the game that way I think we will be ok. If we try to repeatedly play through their ridiculously good press we are going to be in trouble.
Fingers crossed for a more pragmatic approach than in recent games from our manager and players.
 
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When you look at it objectively we are still creating chances and scoring goals (spuds game apart thanks to a combination of poor finishing, bad luck and a goalie having a worldie).
Our problem has been gifting goals to teams with ridiculous errors predominantly from our defensive players. There’s no doubt we are missing a bit of bite and physicality in the middle of the park but our defenders (Gvardiol in particular) have been repeatedly guilty of overplaying and that’s what has ultimately got us into trouble.
With the scouse feral fans on their back the pressure will be even greater on our defensive players and I just hope we go back to the basics, row Z defending if necessary. If and it’s a big if we can approach the game that way I think we will be ok. If we try to repeatedly play through their ridiculously good press we are going to be in trouble.
Fingers crossed for a more pragmatic approach than in recent games from our manager and players.
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It is the defenders making individual errors but that is part of the game at times and something you cannot plan for.....

however the midfield being wide open is something you can plan for or at least try - we need physicality in there.....Gand lewis are not the answer and never were. Gundo when previously played as a 6 has been weak - even when he was at the top of his game....Lewis has never had the physicality to play in there and despite his technical ability he aint a midfielder as he has no idea what to do when he is on the edge of the area and gives the ball away/loses when pressed and then cannot get back ....

Look at some of the goals conceeded....quite often the opponents players (attackers and mids) are having a free run at whoever is at the back - usually the two centre halves as our fullbacks and midfielders are left training and cannot make recovery runs - opponents are just waiting for us to turn the ball back over to them and breaking on us through the middle of the pitch and down the wide channels.

The real reason why we all know that we are screwed until at least January and possibly May is that we all know that Pep wont change it - and why should he? - he has earnt the right not to after he has destroyed the prem league in the last 8 seasons - he has his way and he will stick to it...He will continue with a high line, he will continue asking his whole team to press onto the edge of the opponents penalty area. He wont ask the team to sit a little deeper or at least some of the defenders (namely whoever is at fullback) - to play high. He will continue to play upto the penalty area at walking pace allowing the opponents to get 11 men behind the ball. We actually have a team that could play in transition well with the likes of Haaland, Savihno, Nunes all being very quick and able to run in behind but Pep wont play that way as it would mean sitting the midfielders and back 4 and midfielders 10-5 yds deeper and conceeding possession
 
Very tempted to have a media blackout today.

Nedum said he was hiding behind his sofa for this fixture last year, and he'll be hiding even deeper behind the sofa. Amused me. And it's pretty much how I'm feeling. I don't mind if we lose — well, perhaps I'm going a bit too far there, I do mind it, very much — so long as we fight.

By the way, just as an amusing aside: we're being out-Citied by P.S.G. at the moment. Last night they had 84% possession. Twenty shots. One went in. Nantes had two on target. You've guessed it — draw. (Difference is they'll still be champions of course, because they've got nobody much to give them a run for their money).
 
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We’ll get lamped 4-1.

Not saying it will be 1 way traffic. But our inability to defend is embarrassing.
Anyone can score against us.

We also enjoy pissing chances away. Even if we actually took our chances and scored 2 or 3 we’d still concede more as this set up and players are not able to stop teams scoring at ease.
 
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