Liverpool bus damaged on journey back from Etihad Stadium today

domalino said:
In a full Spurs stadium 1 in 20 people would still be a few thousand, so you'd hear it clearly, and it's probably safe to assume the away fan contingent are more likely to hold onto the chant and approve of it than the family stand, so I'm sure it's heard at most Spurs games up and down the country, but that's not necessarily proof of how the majority feel.
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Your chatting shite fella. I live in the smog for over 30 yrs, know alot of spurs fans, one being one of my best mate. Yids song is rampant
 
Matt Diablo said:
Your chatting shite fella. I live in the smog for over 30 yrs, know alot of spurs fans, one being one of my best mate. Yids song is rampant
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Listen, all I've done is post an article where Spurs surveyed their own fans and pointed out that 1 in 20 people supporting it is still quite a lot.

If you think Spurs are "chatting shit" then say that. It's nothing to do with me.
 
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Matt Diablo said:
Your chatting shite fella. I live in the smog for over 30 yrs, know alot of spurs fans, one being one of my best mate. Yids song is rampant
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Just watch a video if it on YouTube and it’s clear it’s hugely more than 1 in 20. Never seen any spurs fans remonstrate with this seemingly tiny minority about their racist chanting.
 
I see Chelsea had to release a statement this morning, I wonder if Talksport will do a full hour about Chelsea.

They really are a heated club and city it is a simple as that, but the media wont say it (especially after the way the city treated the Sun newspaper)
 
domalino said:
Why sing it then? If you accept it's associated with Hillsborough and you know it causes controversy every time it's sung, and you know the club will have to apologise, and the fans will be condemned for it, then why that song?
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Not that in any way lessens how twisted your take is, there is likely to be a variety of reasons.

Mostly, probalbly the fact that it is Not about Hillsborough, but about a repeated forced mentality of a club. Despite what a claimed wider 'acceptance' says. And maybe the irony of the fact that singing it feeds and manifests that mentality.

You half said it yourself, if fans wantsd to sing about Haysel, or rent boys, or Munich or whatever, they fucking would. They'd just do it, and same goes for Hillsborough. When did football fans ever feel the need to hide behind something seemingly unoffensive to sing something offensive, it is just a fucking bizarre conclusion. And I would of course condmn those songs. Always the victim, and victims of it all however, Liverpool are the ones looking daft with the complaints and resultant statements, not the fans that sing it (including other clubs in that as well).
 
BringBackSwales said:
Fucking hell Kaz I am an FOC and I struggle to remember what happened last week. I shall see if google is my friend
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BringBackSwales said:
In theory Eccles this makes sense, but as you know emotions run high at football matches (imagine if the dippers criticised John Boy!!). I thing the it’s never your fault chant is ok as it relates to bricking coaches (team and supporters), throwing piss, throwing coins at a young City fan and giving her life long scars, racism, abusing the Queen, singing about Shipman. Not one word of that sing can be directly related to Hillsborough, it is more to do with their demented deluded appalling fanbase. They do coward like things like those mentioned above, which shows what sad soft twunts they are, and then they get all tearful over a few words. So although I agree with you I really don’t think that song is bad. More importantly are you continuing to recover well?
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I agree with your sentiments @BringBackSwales and understand. Having gone from being ok about End of East Lancs fans to being very scared of them after a couple of incidents at my last visit there, not including the minibus broken window, I’ve changed!! Cowards.

If one of them even glanced wrongly at John Boy heaven help them coping with the death stare!! ;-)

I almost made it to Saturday’s game but my body had it in for me and I didn’t make it but soon I hope. Thank you for asking. :-)


Missed an Easter Egg as well! The youngster who had been having my ticket apparently bought me an Easter egg as a thank you. :-( I missed an Easter egg. ;-)
 
Eccles Blue said:
I agree with your sentiments @BringBackSwales and understand. Having gone from being ok about End of East Lancs fans to being very scared of them after a couple of incidents at my last visit there, not including the minibus broken window, I’ve changed!! Cowards.

If one of them even glanced wrongly at John Boy heaven help them coping with the death stare!! ;-)

I almost made it to Saturday’s game but my body had it in for me and I didn’t make it but soon I hope. Thank you for asking. :-)


Missed an Easter Egg as well! The youngster who had been having my ticket apparently bought me an Easter egg as a thank you. :-( I missed an Easter egg. ;-)
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Please take care EB, and knowing an EB death stare was coming I think John Boy is very safe
 
domalino said:
Well apparently we're just allowed to post anything we want given the abuse I've gotten this week including someone wishing me dead, so if you can't beat them join the cunts. Doesn't seem like there's much point in sticking to rules no one else gives a fuck about.
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Wishing you dead is out of order and the poster should get banned indefinitely.
 
cookster said:
Wishing you dead is out of order and the poster should get banned indefinitely.
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To be fair they only wished I got hit by a car or bus, and it was for having the outrageous opinion that if we want opposition clubs to condemn our bus getting attacked we should also do it when theirs is attacked, so I probably deserved it.
 
domalino said:
The word victim is inherently linked to Hillsborough becuase the families spent decades using that word specifically in their campaign to overturn the accidental death verdict and prove that their loved ones were unlawfully killed victims of a disaster and not the perpetrators they were portrayed as by SYP and the media.


You and others might try and say that it came about in 2012 as a result of the Suarez racsim incident, but that doesn't really explain why the song wasn't heard and reported on until September 2012, more than a year after the Suarez incident but only a 3 days after the Hillsborough Independent Panel published it's report and the government reopened the inquiry.

At the end of the day, we will probably never know the original intention of the person who came up with the song, but that the FA thinks it's about Hillsborough, the press think it's about Hillsborough, Liverpool fans think it's about Hillsborough and you cant make that go away by insisting it's not, and you can't claim ignorance to the fact that some people think it's related to Hillsborough. So as long as it gets sung, the club will have to issue statements, and the papers will report on it.

So even if it's true that a group managed to coopt the song to mean something it wasn't intended to mean - what is the aim of singing it now?

Why complain about the club and media response when you know full well it's going to happen when the song gets sung?
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Most of that, I have no issue with. That is completely different to claiming fans deliberately sing it because it lets them sing about Hillsborough while pretending it is not.

I think you should be issuing a statement for that.
 
Has the bus damage actually been quantified? Was it a brick, was it a stone, was it a can? Good to see that gmp are investigating it, unlike their miseryside colleagues who watched on while missiles were thrown from on top of their vans
 
Eccles Blue said:
I agree with your sentiments @BringBackSwales and understand. Having gone from being ok about End of East Lancs fans to being very scared of them after a couple of incidents at my last visit there, not including the minibus broken window, I’ve changed!! Cowards.

If one of them even glanced wrongly at John Boy heaven help them coping with the death stare!! ;-)

I almost made it to Saturday’s game but my body had it in for me and I didn’t make it but soon I hope. Thank you for asking. :-)


Missed an Easter Egg as well! The youngster who had been having my ticket apparently bought me an Easter egg as a thank you. :-( I missed an Easter egg. ;-)
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You missed the "Johnny Stones" chant travelling right around the stadium on a couple of occasions. He's rapidly becoming the new Zabaleta style cult hero.
 
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