Liverpool bus damaged on journey back from Etihad Stadium today

Not liking the dippers and singing about people dying aren't really the same thing though, are they.

What singing about people dying are referring to?

Don you think always the victims and victims of it all are about Hillsborough?
 
It'll be interesting to see how long it takes city to announce the intention to hand out life bans for those chanting it.
If they tried to ban me for singing something that isn't even about the thing I'm being told it's about I'd tell them to shove their season tickets up their fucking arse.

The whole country is being gaslit. The song is about fucking Suarez!
 
Not liking the dippers and singing about people dying aren't really the same thing though, are they.
Where does always the victims mention dying? The first time I heard that song was when they tried to defend Suarez for being a racist cheating ****. That's what the song is about (for me anyway) and I'll proudly sing it at the top of my lungs every time we play the fucking pricks.
 
I think that if people wanted to sing about Heysel, they'd use one of the many songs about Heysel, and if they wanted to sing about defending Suarez, they'd make up a song about that, and Always the victims not being explicitly about Hillsborough gives people what they think is an acceptable fig leaf to sing about Hillsborough being Liverpool fans fault whilst pretending they aren't.

The song might originate in 2011 but the line comes from Boris Johnson's 2004 Spectator article and the aftermath of that blowing up where he says - in an article directly apportioning blame for Hillsborough to Liverpool fans - that they always see themselves as victims and wallow in it.

You can't take a line from something explicitly about Hillsborough, turn it into a chant and then pretend it's not about Hillsborough.

The United fans singing the song in 2012 also made headlines, and IIRC United apologised and the United supporters Trust had to release statements about it, so its been 11 years since people have known that it's been interpreted as being about Hillsborough.
That conspicuously isn’t answering the question, which is do you think there is an inveterate culture associated with Liverpool Football Club that manifests itself as an inability to take responsibility for its actions and/or that of its supporters.

Or not?

It’s perfectly permissible to say you don’t.
 
Always the victims not being explicitly about Hillsborough gives people what they think is an acceptable fig leaf to sing about Hillsborough
What absolute fucking nonsense.
Most of the fans who joined in on Saturday when the Liverpool players surrounded the ref wouldn't haven't given a thought to Hillsborough, mainly because they weren't singing about it.

You clearly weren't in the ground.
 

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