No liverpool fans and the media that sucks up to them do not think it’s about Hillsborough, it’s what they want you to think because of their strange and obsessive persecution complex mentality, or put more simply a victim mentality. And I can 100% assure you I am thinking and typing that with no reference to HillsboroughNo I wasn't there, and some people will think that disqualifies me from the discussion which is fine, but given this is the 3rd or 4th game vs Liverpool in a row that the same song has caused national headlines and caused the club to release statements, and caused hundreds of pages of discussion on here, there can be no pretence that people are unaware of the controversy surrounding the song and whether it's linked to Hillsborough.
You sing that song, you know Liverpool fans think it's about Hillsborough, you know the press and the FA think it's about Hillsborough, and you know the club are going to have to release a statement about it again.
I think responsible no. But instrumental in the events that occured, maybe!.Yeah I included that as well in the edit.
It's the root of the problem though isn't it? People still think Liverpool fans are responsible despite 30 years of investigations and inquiries showing that's not the case.
He’ll need scaffolding to get of that fucking horseGet off your fucking high horse, I didn't sing the precious song. I was pointing out people singing it didn't have Hillsborough top of mind, it was triggered by actions on the pitch and wasn't sang again.
Good god you don't half talk some absolute tripe on here.No I wasn't there, and some people will think that disqualifies me from the discussion which is fine, but given this is the 3rd or 4th game vs Liverpool in a row that the same song has caused national headlines and caused the club to release statements, and caused hundreds of pages of discussion on here, there can be no pretence that people are unaware of the controversy surrounding the song and whether it's linked to Hillsborough.
You sing that song, you know Liverpool fans think it's about Hillsborough, you know the press and the FA think it's about Hillsborough, and you know the club are going to have to release a statement about it again.
I think that if people wanted to sing about Heysel, they'd use one of the many songs about Heysel, and if they wanted to sing about defending Suarez, they'd make up a song about that, and Always the victims not being explicitly about Hillsborough gives people what they think is an acceptable fig leaf to sing about Hillsborough being Liverpool fans fault whilst pretending they aren't.
The song might originate in 2011 but the line comes from Boris Johnson's 2004 Spectator article and the aftermath of that blowing up where he says - in an article directly apportioning blame for Hillsborough to Liverpool fans - that they always see themselves as victims and wallow in it.
You can't take a line from something explicitly about Hillsborough, turn it into a chant and then pretend it's not about Hillsborough.
The United fans singing the song in 2012 also made headlines, and IIRC United apologised and the United supporters Trust had to release statements about it, so its been 11 years since people have known that it's been interpreted as being about Hillsborough.
You and your legal terms, please keep it simple for us commonersHateful schmateful.
No liverpool fans and the media that sucks up to them do not think it’s about Hillsborough, it’s what they want you to think because of their strange and obsessive persecution complex mentality, or put more simply a victim mentality. And I can 100% assure you I am thinking and typing that with no reference to Hillsborough
How many supporters read the spectator?
So they waited 8 years and a specific racist incident to bring it up? That's a bit of a stretch if you ask me.The word victim is inherently linked to Hillsborough becuase the families spent decades using that word specifically in their campaign to overturn the accidental death verdict and prove that their loved ones were unlawfully killed victims of a disaster and not the perpetrators they were portrayed as by SYP and the media.
That line you're repeating about Liverpool fans and their victim mentality? It comes from a Boris Johnson article in 2004 attacking the city of Liverpool for never accepting their own responsibility for Hillsborough that blew up and became national news.
You and others might try and say that it came about in 2012 as a result of the Suarez racsim incident, but that doesn't really explain why the song wasn't heard and reported on until September 2012, more than a year after the Suarez incident but only a 3 days after the Hillsborough Independent Panel published it's report and the government reopened the inquiry.
Add their feral behaviour in the 70's using stanley knives etc and massive mobs of them on the rob, mugging, slashing and stabbing.I'm absolutely sick to death of these self righteous cunts, absolutely had my fill with these tramps.
Tell you what the premier league and the FA, instead of gunning after us why don't you ban their away fans from every ground and stop away fans going to Anfield. Absolutely no excuses then is there!
They can sit in peace and quiet for their home game, which they do for most of the 90mins anyway, they don't have to feel victimised or single out and no mardarse statements after every match.
So what they're saying is these chants have only gone on this season?
Funny, when they was doing well i don't remember one statement being released, all of a sudden the arse has fell out of their season and it's statement after statement.
Do me a fuckin favour.
Throwing a plastic pint pot weighed down at away fans.
Smashing up coaches.
Causing a crush and pure panic at the champions league final.
Heysel.
Pushing people into fountains.
Being horrible, foul mouthed cunts everywhere they go.
Try apologising for some of these, until then, liverpool fans, liverpool football club, liverpool arse kissing media, go and fuck yourselves.
I really don’t think you can ever see any other viewpoint other than your own, nearly all of your posts are like that. I am not sure if you have attended any or many City matches and therefore whether you have any real understanding of what City fans feel and why.The word victim is inherently linked to Hillsborough becuase the families spent decades using that word specifically in their campaign to overturn the accidental death verdict and prove that their loved ones were unlawfully killed victims of a disaster and not the perpetrators they were portrayed as by SYP and the media.
That line you're repeating about Liverpool fans and their victim mentality? It comes from a Boris Johnson article in 2004 attacking the city of Liverpool for never accepting their own responsibility for Hillsborough that blew up and became national news.
You and others might try and say that it came about in 2012 as a result of the Suarez racsim incident, but that doesn't really explain why the song wasn't heard and reported on until September 2012, more than a year after the Suarez incident but only a 3 days after the Hillsborough Independent Panel published it's report and the government reopened the inquiry.
same old scousers always whinging/robbing/being cuntsHow about changing victims to whinging? It's not hard, nobody is mentioning victims and it still sums them up perfectly. "Always whinging it's never your fault" Or, "Always the whingers it's never your fault"
same old scousers always whinging/robbing/being cunts
and fucked off ...the top loyal moaning divsThey kept a fucking low profile on Saturday.
and fucked off ...the top loyal moaning divs