squirtyflower
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Some push the same drivel on here as “having a balanced view”
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Liverpool (H) Post Match Thread
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Prestwich_Blue
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Correct.because they don't understand the laws of the game?
mosssideblue
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What are you on about - where have I said it was a red?So you can be in control and commit an intentional foul but out of control yet only clip an opposition player and the second one is a red card? Hmm
dickie davies
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We don’t have a song for Bernie. Come on bluemoaners !
Something to keep on running by the Spencer Davis group would be quite topical.
Run run Bernie, got to chase the scousers down
Run Run Bernie, keeping our Premier Crown
Run Run Bernie, scare the bastards outa town
mosssideblue
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I would expect nothing less from Liverpool fans who are the worst fans around for not being able to judge things rationally (that fan video blaming the length of grass on our pitch illustrating this perfectly). The surprise for me is to see City fans exaggerating the nature of the tackle. Watching the Sky coverage back, even they broadly agreed that a yellow was correct and that possibly a couple of refs out of ten would have given a red. That was a studio with three Liverpool fans working for a Liverpool loving media organisation. We beat them fair and square, certainly don’t feel like the ref favoured us at all on the night.
Yes we did beat them fair and square and I would say bossed the match. Also, Salah went down as if hit by a train, but I am simply in the belief Vinnie could have been sent off for that tackle. You can interpret the rules as you wish, but the ref could have given him a red is all I am saying
BertTrautmann'sParachute
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Probably in prison.Where’s Barton when you need him.
mosssideblue
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Oh really? Why do commentators, fans, journalists talk about being out of control/having two feet off the ground being a red card all the time then?
Because some interpret the laws to convince themselves what they want to believe. If they had committed the exact same tackle, the rule would mean something else I suspect
No one has come back and said they would say, get up Kun and dont be a soft arse if VVD had done exactly the same.
Anyway, I am done with this as it is just going round in circles
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Some push the same drivel on here as “having a balanced view”
Oh dear.
In football as in politics, if the talking point of any argument is complete bullshit, the only balanced view is it's bullshit, any other stance and you're in Adrian Durham country.
Lancet Fluke
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It could have been, I suppose. It would have been pretty harsh though. I don’t see the point in debating that we weren’t given what would have been a harsh red. If it was a nailed on red that we got away with then fair enough but it simply wasn’t one.Yes we did beat them fair and square and I would say bossed the match. Also, Salah went down as if hit by a train, but I am simply in the belief Vinnie could have been sent off for that tackle. You can interpret the rules as you wish, but the ref could have given him a red is all I am saying
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Even worse, Fleetwood.Probably in prison.
Because its a narrative that has formed over the last few years and has fuck all to do with what the actual law of the game states.
What does the actual law say then?
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blueinsa
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What does the actual law say then?
Read back a few pages and you will see as its been posted.
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Not sure if anyone’s pointed it out yet, but that win has put us cumulatively ahead of the dippers this season, on GD.
Prem: dippers 54, City 50. GD 39 for both.
CL: dippers 9 points (!), City 13. GD - dippers 2, City 10.
Overall: dippers 63 points GD 41. City 63 points GD 49.
Normally I’d think it was incredibly petty to point this out, but I’ve heard so much bilge about the dippers being so incredible, I thought it needed pointing out.
We’ve also now lost the same number of matches overall.
Prem: dippers 54, City 50. GD 39 for both.
CL: dippers 9 points (!), City 13. GD - dippers 2, City 10.
Overall: dippers 63 points GD 41. City 63 points GD 49.
Normally I’d think it was incredibly petty to point this out, but I’ve heard so much bilge about the dippers being so incredible, I thought it needed pointing out.
We’ve also now lost the same number of matches overall.
Read back a few pages and you will see as its been posted.
Can’t see it. Read from page 136 onwards.
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blueinsa
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Can’t see it. Read from page 136 onwards.
As Marvin says, Law 12 only talks about whether a tackle is careless, reckless or involves excessive force/brutality that endangers the safety of a player. It's quite acceptable to tackle with two feet as long as it's not any of these.
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NapoliWe’ve also now lost the same number of matches overall.
PSG
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Us - 5
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Leicester - 4
@blueinsa To be fair that is someone’s summary of the post. Does anyone have the actual wording from FIFA?
And also referees interpretation of careless and reckless has clearly been feet off the ground over the least few years in situations like this. Wrongly or rightly that’s what we’ve all witnessed in the prem and especially the CL so don’t quite understand the venom or anomistity towards other blues who are simply pointing this out...
None of us wanted Kompany sent off. He wasn’t. He was booked which I personally think is fair. The ref isn’t “bent” or “bias” or any other stupid conspiracy theories people have.
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@blueinsa To be fair that is someone’s summary of the post. Does anyone have the actual wording from FIFA?
Is your google broken?
http://www.thefa.com/football-rules.../football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct
I imagine if Kompany was sent off it would fall under the section of lunges. He wasn’t though so it’s all bit pointless this.
It's all semantics. The words careless, reckless, excessive force derived from the recast of the laws 20 years ago but it was only later FIFA tacked onto it the free kick /yellow / red definitions. Reckless should have been the red and excessive force (i.e. getting the ball but just too hard) shouid have been yellow.
It’s not all semantics tho. Suggest you take a look....pics & everyfink ;)
https://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afdeveloping/refereeing/law_12_fouls_misconduct_en_47379.pdf
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