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Every game against the dippers they start fast and press the hell out of us. Obviously with our best centre half’s it’s easier to cope.
After the first 15 mins we then get at them (yesterday we missed about 5 clear passes to put Harland through) we then missed some chances as well
Second half then is the same
We had more chances and more on target than them.
I think we will be fine this season
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
That's a really good analysis of the match. A lot smarter than most of the broadcasting idiots. It's hard to argue with any of his broad points.
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His analysis ignores the fact that Nunez is effectively replacing Mane and not Firmino - system wise, Mane was a central threat like Nunez and Firmino was the bit part alternative option for the last 2 seasons.
 
Semper aggressus said:
It’s very annoying how often we seem unable to beat these cunts.

Somehow we need to find a way to start beating them regularly. There have been far too many of these games where they come out on top. Although we‘ve won the title more times recently, it’s these one off games where they seem to prevail, and I don’t know why they beat us more than we beat them, when because of our consistency across a season we must actually be the better side.

Maybe because they start at us so fast, we need to injure one of their key players very early on in games, or wind them up and break up the games right from the off with fouls, diving and time-wasting.
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In the last 8 PL games we have lost once
 
Semper aggressus said:
It’s very annoying how often we seem unable to beat these cunts.

Somehow we need to find a way to start beating them regularly. There have been far too many of these games where they come out on top. Although we‘ve won the title more times recently, it’s these one off games where they seem to prevail, and I don’t know why they beat us more than we beat them, when because of our consistency across a season we must actually be the better side.

Maybe because they start at us so fast, we need to injure one of their key players very early on in games, or wind them up and break up the games right from the off with fouls, diving and time-wasting.
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Yesterday was all down to match fitness, mentally and physically. They just looked that bit sharper than we did and they had an edge that we didn't have.
Don't worry about it, we'll be singing in May
 
Worrying thing for me is still every shot on target for the opposition seems to be a goal.
Last few games:
Dippers 4 shots on target, 3 goals.
Villa 2 shots on target, 2 goals
West Ham, 2 shots on target, 2 goals

We look anything but solid at the back
 
stan bowles said:
His analysis ignores the fact that Nunez is effectively replacing Mane and not Firmino - system wise, Mane was a central threat like Nunez and Firmino was the bit part alternative option for the last 2 seasons.
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Perhaps but yesterday Nunez was making repeated runs between Diaz and Ake (especially when Ake was dragged left to cover for Cancelo). Even on one showing Nunez looks much better than Diaz or Jota. He may be able to cover any of the front three positions but he is a trheat in the centre with the sort of crosses LFC can deliver. Nunez doesn't look like a very technical player but he is a big disruptive presence.
 
hertsblue said:
Worrying thing for me is still every shot on target for the opposition seems to be a goal.
Last few games:
Dippers 4 shots on target, 3 goals.
Villa 2 shots on target, 2 goals
West Ham, 2 shots on target, 2 goals

We look anything but solid at the back
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We seem to have had that issue for some time. Just have to limit the opposition chances and make sure we‘re more clinical, because we tend to create more than most. I’m sure once Erling is up to speed we’ll be smashing most teams.
 
Always the same pattern: dippers start at 150% and aggressive pressure hoping to score and defend the lead.

Although still quite rusty we nearly managed to not concede in the 1st 60 minutes. The goal was lazy defending vs a top side by our whole team and inviting top players to finish is just not acceptable.

After the hour mark dippers always nearly collapse and can't high press anymore. We had more space but didn't take or chances and lost on a stupid penalty (the rule is just nonsense, Pawson didn't have a choice) and on the break.

Next time we'll meet will be different I think.
So no CS then. Good game to watch though and great atmosphere.
 
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Semper aggressus said:
It’s very annoying how often we seem unable to beat these cunts.

Somehow we need to find a way to start beating them regularly. There have been far too many of these games where they come out on top. Although we‘ve won the title more times recently, it’s these one off games where they seem to prevail, and I don’t know why they beat us more than we beat them, when because of our consistency across a season we must actually be the better side.

Maybe because they start at us so fast, we need to injure one of their key players very early on in games, or wind them up and break up the games right from the off with fouls, diving and time-wasting.
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We haven't lost to them at home for years and we have leathered them a few times in that period. We need to stop being too knee jerk about these games. I bet they would swap the amount of titles we have won at their expense. They can't get that right can they. Yesterday's game will have no baring on this season ahead, just like last year's Charity Shield match didn't.
 
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St.Pauli support said:
Always the same pattern: dippers start at 150% and aggressive pressure hoping to score and defend the lead.

Although still quite rusty we nearly managed to not concede in the 1st 60 minutes. The goal was lazy defending vs a top side by our whole team and inviting top players to finish is just not acceptable.

After the hour mark dippers always nearly collapse and can't high press anymore. We had more but didn't take or chances and lost on a stupid penalty (the rule is just nonsense, Pawson didn't have a choice) and on the break.

Next time we'll meet will be different I think.
So no CS then. Good game to watch though and great atmosphere.
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Agree. Having time to reflect on the game, we lost because we were simply not up to speed. Match sharpness and decision making poor. Misplaced passes on each buildup phase. Individual battles lost. Liverpool are a good team and punished us easily.

So no qualms about the result. Certain individuals need to up their contribution to the team. Work in progress, the first few games will be used to iron out any problems. I am intrigued as to how pep is going to get the team to gel. Nothing is guaranteed in football.

Unrivalled success under Pep so can’t really complain.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
That's a really good analysis of the match. A lot smarter than most of the broadcasting idiots. It's hard to argue with any of his broad points.
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The thing I noticed during the game was the positioning of Bernardo and Rodri, in the first half.

Not sure why the more ball carrying, creative of the two midfield pivots, was the one closer to Ederson. It negated any midfield drive/ link to De Bruyne, who (also having a poor game for him, perhaps because of the pivot) had to make snap decisions in passing, rather than build up in the mid with Silva, like last year.
 
I thoroughly enjoyed the game. Great curtain raiser for the Prem

The result, pah, neither here nor there for me. We treated it as a pre season game to get up to speed, whereas Liverpool seemed 100% ready for the Prem to start
 
Just watched the game. Don’t think we were as bad as people are making out lol, but yeah we do need a left back
 
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the stupid non-pundit telling me on tv AAs shot was deflected by Aké by "the skin of his head" is simply incompetent or biased.

Without that decisive deflection Eddie would have easily picked it down. It was not a brilliant goal, but just a lucky one.
 
Corky said:
No it isn't, that is the con, a small minority goes to charities. The FA are happy for people to think it is a charity event and don't publish where the money goes.
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Someone on here will be able to find those percentages. But if Wembley was never going to be an option, then why didn't they maximise the bucks by playing at Old Trafford? Would have been far less hassle for the fans, but since when has the FA bothered about them?
 
St.Pauli support said:
Forgot to say:
the stupid non-pundit telling me on tv AAs shot was deflected by Aké by "the skin of his head" is simply incompetent or biased.

Without that decisive deflection Eddie would have easily picked it down. It was not a brilliant goal, but just a lucky one.
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And of course the nasty dipper rat didn’t get booked for goading the City fans, wanker.
 
I felt Edersons distribution has gone backwards, he’s carried on from the end of last season, he’s confident on the ball but isn’t picking people out, needs to sort that out as he’s key for counters.
 
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