Liverpool Thread 2013/14

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Right now, Liverpool would fill 60,000. Of that, I have no doubt. But for how much longer..?

They'll need to get a wriggle on, regarding getting back into competition for the big prizes or they may as well forget about expansion. For any club in any sport, when your support gets to the size of Liverpool's, there's going to be a large percentage of glory hunters, hangers-on, "experience the thrill of just being there" twats etc etc. It's fair to say, that they don't tend to associate with perpetual 6th to say, 10th placing teams (which is what Liverpool are in danger of having already become).

Then again, i can't blame them for trying. Any way you look at it, they have to expand because if they don't, they won't get any more in match day revenue. Having voted for FFP with all the joy of a dour Presbyterian, they've painted themselves into a corner on that score. It was an act of incredible stupidity and actually one that flew in the face of Liverpool's history when you consider that even Shankley, in his autobiography, credits the foundations of Liverpool with the Pools money (cf references to Eric Sawyer, chapter 7).
So build it and fill it and be successful on the proceeds, is their only viable plan, now. If it is viable (probably, just about, with luck, I'd say). Whether they manage to do it before they definitively fall in with the also-rans, is the thing.

Already, the media have stopped refering to them as part of the Big Four (or even five). That's an indicator of how fickle it's all become. Only a blink of an eye ago, they were ensconced in that bracket. If I had to guess, I'd say that Liverpool have five years (at the outside!) to build a team that will not only consistently challenge, but actually win a major trophy.

Personally, I don't care what happens to them, as long as we're alright, Jack. It's not like they gave a fork about us, not so long ago.
 
AntiUnited said:
I honestly believe hes ready to be a first team starter drop him in the deep end and let him sink or swim. when he played last season in the few games he was in he did well but he hoofed it abit. so far this season hes been composed and is actually passing it out from the back.

I'd prefer to ease him in and aid his confidence, Sterling was chucked in at the deep end and went totally off the boil though...If pre-season is anything to go by it's not done him any harm.

One to watch this year is Jordan Ibe - a bigger version of Sterling.

We're aiming to bring in 1 or 2 youth players per year and we have some absolute class coming through. This along with new signings should see us climbing the table season on season.<br /><br />-- Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:51 pm --<br /><br />
mad4city said:
Then again, i can't blame them for trying. Any way you look at it, they have to expand because if they don't, they won't get any more in match day revenue. Having voted for FFP with all the joy of a dour Presbyterian, they've painted themselves into a corner on that score. It was an act of incredible stupidity and actually one that flew in the face of Liverpool's history when you consider that even Shankley, in his autobiography, credits the foundations of Liverpool with the Pools money (cf references to Eric Sawyer, chapter 7).
So build it and fill it and be successful on the proceeds, is their only viable plan, now. If it is viable (probably, just about, with luck, I'd say). Whether they manage to do it before they definitively fall in with the also-rans, is the thing.

Some great knowledge there mate.

Agree we'll need a bit of luck, the thing that tips luck in our favour is our youth setup (foundations laid by Rafa) You'll see "new signings" coming through there to the first team every year going forward.

We've got the right manager & the right owners to take the club forward. Exciting times considering we were at the brink of receivership 2 years ago.
 
mad4city said:
Right now, Liverpool would fill 60,000. Of that, I have no doubt. But for how much longer..?

They'll need to get a wriggle on, regarding getting back into competition for the big prizes or they may as well forget about expansion. For any club in any sport, when your support gets to the size of Liverpool's, there's going to be a large percentage of glory hunters, hangers-on, "experience the thrill of just being there" twats etc etc. It's fair to say, that they don't tend to associate with perpetual 6th to say, 10th placing teams (which is what Liverpool are in danger of having already become).

Then again, i can't blame them for trying. Any way you look at it, they have to expand because if they don't, they won't get any more in match day revenue. Having voted for FFP with all the joy of a dour Presbyterian, they've painted themselves into a corner on that score. It was an act of incredible stupidity and actually one that flew in the face of Liverpool's history when you consider that even Shankley, in his autobiography, credits the foundations of Liverpool with the Pools money (cf references to Eric Sawyer, chapter 7).
So build it and fill it and be successful on the proceeds, is their only viable plan, now. If it is viable (probably, just about, with luck, I'd say). Whether they manage to do it before they definitively fall in with the also-rans, is the thing.

Already, the media have stopped refering to them as part of the Big Four (or even five). That's an indicator of how fickle it's all become. Only a blink of an eye ago, they were ensconced in that bracket. If I had to guess, I'd say that Liverpool have five years (at the outside!) to build a team that will not only consistently challenge, but actually win a major trophy.

Personally, I don't care what happens to them, as long as we're alright, Jack. It's not like they gave a fork about us, not so long ago.

I agree with a lot of this. For the first time in my life Liverpool are no longer one of the top clubs in England to go to. Suarez considering a move to Arsenal from Liverpool speaks volumes as does the rejection from Mkhiktaryen. There repuation no longer means they can attract top players. If they don't get back into the top form soon it could get worse.

That being said their fanbase will likely remain strong for a long while yet.
 
supercrystal7 said:
mad4city said:
Right now, Liverpool would fill 60,000. Of that, I have no doubt. But for how much longer..?

They'll need to get a wriggle on, regarding getting back into competition for the big prizes or they may as well forget about expansion. For any club in any sport, when your support gets to the size of Liverpool's, there's going to be a large percentage of glory hunters, hangers-on, "experience the thrill of just being there" twats etc etc. It's fair to say, that they don't tend to associate with perpetual 6th to say, 10th placing teams (which is what Liverpool are in danger of having already become).

Then again, i can't blame them for trying. Any way you look at it, they have to expand because if they don't, they won't get any more in match day revenue. Having voted for FFP with all the joy of a dour Presbyterian, they've painted themselves into a corner on that score. It was an act of incredible stupidity and actually one that flew in the face of Liverpool's history when you consider that even Shankley, in his autobiography, credits the foundations of Liverpool with the Pools money (cf references to Eric Sawyer, chapter 7).
So build it and fill it and be successful on the proceeds, is their only viable plan, now. If it is viable (probably, just about, with luck, I'd say). Whether they manage to do it before they definitively fall in with the also-rans, is the thing.

Already, the media have stopped refering to them as part of the Big Four (or even five). That's an indicator of how fickle it's all become. Only a blink of an eye ago, they were ensconced in that bracket. If I had to guess, I'd say that Liverpool have five years (at the outside!) to build a team that will not only consistently challenge, but actually win a major trophy.

Personally, I don't care what happens to them, as long as we're alright, Jack. It's not like they gave a fork about us, not so long ago.

I agree with a lot of this. For the first time in my life Liverpool are no longer one of the top clubs in England to go to. Suarez considering a move to Arsenal from Liverpool speaks volumes as does the rejection from Mkhiktaryen. There repuation no longer means they can attract top players. If they don't get back into the top form soon it could get worse.

That being said their fanbase will likely remain strong for a long while yet.

Its not rejection when that player went to the runners up in the champs league
 
Bill Shankley was vastly overrated, 8 trophies in 14 years(one was winning the fizzy pop league.), Mancini has a better trophy ratio. Bob Paisley is the person who deserves all the credit. Discuss.
 
AntiUnited said:
supercrystal7 said:
mad4city said:
Right now, Liverpool would fill 60,000. Of that, I have no doubt. But for how much longer..?

They'll need to get a wriggle on, regarding getting back into competition for the big prizes or they may as well forget about expansion. For any club in any sport, when your support gets to the size of Liverpool's, there's going to be a large percentage of glory hunters, hangers-on, "experience the thrill of just being there" twats etc etc. It's fair to say, that they don't tend to associate with perpetual 6th to say, 10th placing teams (which is what Liverpool are in danger of having already become).

Then again, i can't blame them for trying. Any way you look at it, they have to expand because if they don't, they won't get any more in match day revenue. Having voted for FFP with all the joy of a dour Presbyterian, they've painted themselves into a corner on that score. It was an act of incredible stupidity and actually one that flew in the face of Liverpool's history when you consider that even Shankley, in his autobiography, credits the foundations of Liverpool with the Pools money (cf references to Eric Sawyer, chapter 7).
So build it and fill it and be successful on the proceeds, is their only viable plan, now. If it is viable (probably, just about, with luck, I'd say). Whether they manage to do it before they definitively fall in with the also-rans, is the thing.

Already, the media have stopped refering to them as part of the Big Four (or even five). That's an indicator of how fickle it's all become. Only a blink of an eye ago, they were ensconced in that bracket. If I had to guess, I'd say that Liverpool have five years (at the outside!) to build a team that will not only consistently challenge, but actually win a major trophy.

Personally, I don't care what happens to them, as long as we're alright, Jack. It's not like they gave a fork about us, not so long ago.

I agree with a lot of this. For the first time in my life Liverpool are no longer one of the top clubs in England to go to. Suarez considering a move to Arsenal from Liverpool speaks volumes as does the rejection from Mkhiktaryen. There repuation no longer means they can attract top players. If they don't get back into the top form soon it could get worse.

That being said their fanbase will likely remain strong for a long while yet.

Its not rejection when that player went to the runners up in the champs league
It is when you were offering more wages and this is just one example. Suarez wanting to go to Arsenal was another I gave. They don't have the same standing they had under Benitez.
 
supercrystal7 said:
AntiUnited said:
supercrystal7 said:
I agree with a lot of this. For the first time in my life Liverpool are no longer one of the top clubs in England to go to. Suarez considering a move to Arsenal from Liverpool speaks volumes as does the rejection from Mkhiktaryen. There repuation no longer means they can attract top players. If they don't get back into the top form soon it could get worse.

That being said their fanbase will likely remain strong for a long while yet.

Its not rejection when that player went to the runners up in the champs league
It is when you were offering more wages and this is just one example. Suarez wanting to go to Arsenal was another I gave. They don't have the same standing they had under Benitez.
i agree with that.. champs league sadly is everything
 
One of the reasons the rags hate Liverpool so much is because they know deep down that, no matter how successful they are, their fans will never match the passion of Liverpool's support. They hated us for the same reason when we wouldn't lie down and die in the Third Division. United may have 20 titles but they will never have what we (and Liverpool) have got. I would love to see Liverpool back at the top...as long as it wasn't at our expense.
 
Bloody 'ell!
Has Val Doonican designed the new Liverpool kits?!
That whiteish effort looks like something from a Folk Club in the sixties.... (only joking)..... and the way the club have supported Suarez I find his mercenary antics disgusting.
 
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