Liverpool thread 2017/18

[PragueBlue]

Like I said. I was upset when Sterling left, he was a first-team player and actually, Id take him over Mané this season. I think hed fit really well back into our team too. But it is how it is I guess

I never understand why it bothers people when their team is called a selling club. Does it really matter? I'd say most clubs (if not all) would sell players if they got what they considered to be a ridiculously high price. Look at Neymar to PSG etc. If you can get a good fee for a player and strengthen the team overall, then surely that's better than having one superstar and not really going anywhere.

The problem is only if you sell and don't buy the right players to create an overall stronger team..

 

[LFC-Fans]

I never understand why it bothers people when their team is called a selling club. Does it really matter? I'd say most clubs (if not all) would sell players if they got what they considered to be a ridiculously high price. Look at Neymar to PSG etc. If you can get a good fee for a player and strengthen the team overall, then surely that's better than having one superstar and not really going anywhere.

The problem is only if you sell and don't buy the right players to create an overall stronger team..

That’s true I guess.

In fact if you use my definition of a selling club. Barcelona would be defined as such with the Neymar transfer. Lol.

So that doesn’t quite work. Oops.

 

[mac]

Every club can be classed as a selling club. However its the players that are sold that will define where the ambition of the owners are. Would you class Southampton as a selling club. As for every player you have bought from them how many have you sold on. Courtiho, Raheem, Hannibal,Torres,

 

[kemlyn17]

We will be a selling club as long as FSG are here. I dont see how we can claim any different.

 

[mac]

We will be a selling club as long as FSG are here. I dont see how we can claim any different.

You will get banned from rawk for claiming that. True though.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

That’s true I guess.

In fact if you use my definition of a selling club. Barcelona would be defined as such with the Neymar transfer. Lol.

So that doesn’t quite work. Oops.

well barca didn't willingly sell neymar, they paid his release clause. I think that makes it a rather different case to a club agreeing a fee and willingly signing the paperwork

 

[M18CTID]

We will be a selling club as long as FSG are here. I dont see how we can claim any different.

To be honest, you can create the persona of not being a selling club but it needs to come from the top. I think Liverpool were loathe to sell the likes of Sterling, Coutinho, and Suarez but once the club started entertaining the idea then the outcome becomes inevitable once the interested club meets the asking price. FSG might not have the financial clout that City's owner has but I think they have a fair bit of clout in their own right. Trouble is, there obviously comes a point where FSG's head is turned as well as the players but I believe if they'd given this persona from the outset that they were looking to return Liverpool right to the top and that their intention was to add great players to the great ones already there, then that would help ward off potential suitors while at the same time showing the players in question that the club are extremely ambitious. Despite all the money at City these days, I'm still a little surprised that since the takeover we've never seemingly been in danger of losing our best players to Spain's big two but I think a lot of it just comes down to the vibe the club gives off to other clubs sniffing round and to the players themselves. I think that Liverpool could quite conceivably do something similar, especially as you're now on a relatively sound footing and clearly building a very promising team. Salah will be the next one in the crosshairs of Barca and Real but if Liverpool make all the right noises to him now and offer him a huge new contract then you might keep him out of their clutches. Granted, some will say that Suarez and Coutinho signed lucrative new contracts and that didn't stop Barca getting them but I reckon they signed those deals as part of an agreement to let them get their move further down the line.

 

[Newman Noggs]

I'd sell any City player bar Ederson, Sane and KDB for £200m.

 

[Cellarite]

Torres to Chelsea I mentioned previously as being the last time we made such as sale.
The Sterling one is difficult because you'll get different answers depending on who you ask. I personally was sad to see him go, but others will tell you it was a good deal.

But they’ll only tell you it was a good deal after the event so they can save face.

When Sterling first talked about leaving, the smear campaign started. He was a money grabber. He was forced to come out and say it wasn’t about money. If I recall correctly he said he wouldn’t sign a contract with Liverpool for a million pounds per week.

He was then harangued for being too big for his boots.

I remember Alan Hansen, Ray Houghton, Mickey Quinn, John Barnes, John Aldridge and most hilariously of all Steven Gerrard all coming out to vilify him.

I say hilariously of Gerrard because he said that Sterling should follow Jordan Henderson’s example when it comes to loyalty. That’s right, Jamaican born, London raised, bought from QPR Raheem Sterling should be more loyal like Sunderland born, Sunderland raised, Sunderland youth product turned captain who left to play for Liverpool.

Liverpool fans saying they’re not bothered about Sterling leaving now is like me living with Jennifer Aniston for two years. Two years of bliss. I tell myself it’ll last forever and we have good times. The sex is amazing. She wears stockings and suspenders sometimes and knee high boots. Soon though, she notices that I’m putting some weight on and can’t offer her the life she wants. She tells me she intends to leave me if I don’t buck my ideas up. I think she’s bluffing and change nowt.

She announces its over. I’m a mess. I get my mates to tell her what a good guy I am but the damage is done and she moves out. I watch her leave through the window in tears. Blowing big bubbles of snot and doing that crying and struggling to get my breath thing.

For the next few months, every time I see her in Asda, I follow her round telling her new fellow that she’s no good, throwing insults at her and making threats.

18 months later, someone asks me why she left. Now do you believe me when I say “I wasn’t that arsed. She’s a slag anyway”?

 

[br88]

Strange that the Dippers never quote these type of statistics .

Don't things like that appear in their 'istree ?

https://www.footballseeding.com/club-ranking/a2017-2018/

The statistics that matter right now in Europe are the above. City in 8th and the top English team.
The mighty Liverpool are in....can you believe it.....27th...alongside such giants as Olympiakos and Fiorentina.
They need to be a bit more humble....qualified for the CL just once since 2010 and got knocked out in the group stage...that was in 2015.

 

[JPBB]

Is there a more vilified ex-player than Sterling?

Sol Campbell perhaps? Ashley Cole?

But in recently times the bile thrown at Sterling by Liverpool fans can not be matched.

Get over it.

 

[LFC-Fans]

Is there a more vilified ex-player than Sterling?

Sol Campbell perhaps? Ashley Cole?

But in recently times the bile thrown at Sterling by Liverpool fans can not be matched.

Get over it.

I don’t think it’s that bad to be honest. I’ve heard worse.

 

[Cellarite]

I don’t think it’s that bad to be honest. I’ve heard worse.

Give us an example...

 

[Bellamy's Caddy]

I've grown to despise Liverpool over the years, from their hysterical fan base and their sense of entitlement, to that attention seeking tosser Klopp. The media are the only thing keeping them relevant

They are the most raggish team outside of the rags, probably why they hate each other.

I really hope we smash them in both games.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

I don’t think it’s that bad to be honest. I’ve heard worse.

Well give us some examples then. When you factor in the media campaign against Sterling at the point that he left you lot, I think you'd be fairly pushed to name anyone who got more shit in this country in recent years beyond the two JPBB mentioned. Don't forget, the shit your club with the help of their ex players kicked up meant that he got booed every time he touched the ball at every single away ground he went to for the first season and still gets shit to a lesser extent. That's at grounds where there is literally no reason for the fans to give the first fuck. That's how relentless and pervasive the hatchet job was, it influenced the whole country to hate him.

 

[mad4city]

But they’ll only tell you it was a good deal after the event so they can save face.

When Sterling first talked about leaving, the smear campaign started. He was a money grabber. He was forced to come out and say it wasn’t about money. If I recall correctly he said he wouldn’t sign a contract with Liverpool for a million pounds per week.

He was then harangued for being too big for his boots.

I remember Alan Hansen, Ray Houghton, Mickey Quinn, John Barnes, John Aldridge and most hilariously of all Steven Gerrard all coming out to vilify him.

I say hilariously of Gerrard because he said that Sterling should follow Jordan Henderson’s example when it comes to loyalty. That’s right, Jamaican born, London raised, bought from QPR Raheem Sterling should be more loyal like Sunderland born, Sunderland raised, Sunderland youth product turned captain who left to play for Liverpool.

Liverpool fans saying they’re not bothered about Sterling leaving now is like me living with Jennifer Aniston for two years. Two years of bliss. I tell myself it’ll last forever and we have good times. The sex is amazing. She wears stockings and suspenders sometimes and knee high boots. Soon though, she notices that I’m putting some weight on and can’t offer her the life she wants. She tells me she intends to leave me if I don’t buck my ideas up. I think she’s bluffing and change nowt.

She announces its over. I’m a mess. I get my mates to tell her what a good guy I am but the damage is done and she moves out. I watch her leave through the window in tears. Blowing big bubbles of snot and doing that crying and struggling to get my breath thing.

For the next few months, every time I see her in Asda, I follow her round telling her new fellow that she’s no good, throwing insults at her and making threats.

18 months later, someone asks me why she left. Now do you believe me when I say “I wasn’t that arsed. She’s a slag anyway”?

Too... busy.. thinking... about... Jennifer... to know... if I... Aniston, I mean, agree.

 

[LFC-Fans]

Give us an example...

Literally anyone who’s left a club and played for another club. Ever. It’s standard in today’s football.

I think it’s wrong. But in no way has Sterling received treatment that is above and beyond what I’m already used to in the modern game...

Tevez, Milner, RVP, Sterling, Sanchez, any Newcastle & Sunderland players, pshhh. Sure there’s loads more.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

I don’t think it’s that bad to be honest. I’ve heard worse.

I doubt that there has been a more orchestrated example of childish booing and character assassination of a player before. Due 100% to the uproar created by the slapped-arse ex Liverpool players input, it escalated from being localised to Sterling being booed at Anfield to him suffering abuse across the PL and further afield , but you do not think it " was that bad ".

Fucking hell, you lot have some brass neck .

 

[mac]

Well give us some examples then. When you factor in the media campaign against Sterling at the point that he left you lot, I think you'd be fairly pushed to name anyone who got more shit in this country in recent years beyond the two JPBB mentioned. Don't forget, the shit your club with the help of their ex players kicked up meant that he got booed every time he touched the ball at every single away ground he went to for the first season and still gets shit to a lesser extent. That's at grounds where there is literally no reason for the fans to give the first fuck. That's how relentless and pervasive the hatchet job was, it influenced the whole country to hate him.

Well put LF I could put more on to this but it' just a waste of time . They really are the most delusional set of wankers ever to walk the earth. I use to like scousers and I have had many of top nights in Liverpool. I have followed their music scene since I was 13. Yet recently even talking to music fans on a night out they turn bitter. Teams do not deserve to be any where unless you put in the hard graft but their sense of entitlement is unbelievable. You horrible set of cnuts. I hope you never win another trophy again, yet the hierarchy at the fa won't allow that. Just like them wanking rags out of town. The future is blue you bastards.

 

[Inter Me Nan]

Literally anyone who’s left a club and played for another club. Ever. It’s standard in today’s football.

I think it’s wrong. But in no way has Sterling received treatment that is above and beyond what I’m already used to in the modern game...

Tevez, Milner, RVP, Sterling, Sanchez, any Newcastle & Sunderland players, pshhh. Sure there’s loads more.

You're a blue on the wind up & I claim my £5.