Liverpool thread 2018/19

[aguero93:20]

I've come across many who don't fall into these categories I've mentioned above and they all want us to win. [for instance the biggest Balkan sports broadcaster is seriously pro Liverpool through punditry,commentary so I guess it just depends where you're at]

If the majority of Balkans think they're ****s, then that sounds just like the UK media.

 

[Jordie]

No, I'm not Gary James, in fact you've probably insulted the lad.

Haha,I wasn't suggesting you were Gary James. I was asking him to corroborate your version of events ;-)

 

[barney*]

both bent since 1915
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1915_British_football_betting_scandal

 

[M18CTID]

Gary was posting about this the other day I think. The match was definitely fixed as bookies were expecting a 2-0 scoreline to the rags. A Liverpool player apparently hit the bar with a shot & some of his his teammates were clearly furious with him. Gary said that the United solicitor was appointed to the Inquiry Panel and didn’t bother interviewing the players for months. A few players on each team were scapegoats but those who survived WW1 were pardoned I think.

I could be mistaken but I think there’s even more to it than that. I’m sure I read somewhere that Liverpool’s owner at the time McKenna was also the Football League chairman so there were conflicts of interest all over the place. It’s also rumoured that this fixed match between United and Liverpool was the leverage used by Henry “Bent as a nine Bob note and later Banned For Life” Norris to lobby for Arsenal to be elected into the First Division straight after WW1. Of course, that utter fucking lunatic Tony Attwood claims that Norris was doing football a favour by calling out the cheats of United and Liverpool. Yeah, course he was Tony.

 

[Metalartin]

But they're a genuine club, with history, doing things the right way. That lie is so transparent only those with a dog in the race should believe it, like the dippers and the rags, and while it is true that the further away you get from those poisonous clubs the less that preposterous lie is believed, one has to admit, the media has peddled their "real" clubs versus plastic (oil money) City line relentlessly well, with great success, it is now the "accepted" truth and has found traction in the unlikeliest places. I've come across quite a few fans of lower league teams who have a negative and completely irrational view of our club, fed entirely by the red tops, SKY, BT, BBC, social media and of course Talksport.

These tossers are a bunch of self important arseholes, but their mind numbing bollocks sums up rather well the collective "wisdom" regarding City....

Probably shouldn't have bothered but the Liverpool fan was actually the reasonable one in that conversation. With Brian's reference to £1.3b in 10 years I made the argument that(beside it being £1.4m in 8 years apparently), how is any club supposed to catch up to the top European clubs, post 90s? Or is the idea that "it's not fair that anyone should ever catch them up"?

If it were a drag race(I'm not a fan of drag racing but bare with me) and your starting line is 100s of yards behind the "chosen history cars" starting line every race. If you travel any slower than them, you will never catch them. If you even travel at the same speed... you will also never catch them. So you need outpace them with your nitro boost(owner investment) to win a few races and get that starting line moved nearer to theirs. Only when the starting lines are level, can a fair comparison be made, surely?

EUROPE'S BIGGEST SPENDERS
1. Manchester City (£1.4bn)

2. Barcelona (£1.015bn)

3. Paris Saint-Germain (£1.014bn)

4. Chelsea (£1bn)

5. Manchester United (£898m)

6. Real Madrid (£862m)

7. Liverpool (£820m)

8. Juventus (£811m)

 

[Metalartin]

Well that is clearly a Liverpool's fans take on it, which is probably biased... But that doesn't mean it's incorrect and they did at least go through every league game by the looks of it.

To contest it, someone would need to do the same... not sure I can be bothered watching that much Liverpool myself. Respect to anyone who can compile the true amount of offside goals though.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

both bent since 1915
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1915_British_football_betting_scandal

Only certain sorts of istree counts as istree please keep up.

 

[citytilllidie]

Probably shouldn't have bothered but the Liverpool fan was actually the reasonable one in that conversation. With Brian's reference to £1.3b in 10 years I made the argument that(beside it being £1.4m in 8 years apparently), how is any club supposed to catch up to the top European clubs, post 90s? Or is the idea that "it's not fair that anyone should ever catch them up"?

If it were a drag race(I'm not a fan of drag racing but bare with me) and your starting line is 100s of yards behind the "chosen history cars" starting line every race. If you travel any slower than them, you will never catch them. If you even travel at the same speed... you will also never catch them. So you need outpace them with your nitro boost(owner investment) to win a few races and get that starting line moved nearer to theirs. Only when the starting lines are level, can a fair comparison be made, surely?

EUROPE'S BIGGEST SPENDERS
1. Manchester City (£1.4bn)

2. Barcelona (£1.015bn)

3. Paris Saint-Germain (£1.014bn)

4. Chelsea (£1bn)

5. Manchester United (£898m)

6. Real Madrid (£862m)

7. Liverpool (£820m)

8. Juventus (£811m)

Good analogy that about the drag racing.
Might doctor it (excuse the pun) and use race horses (doped), or maybe greyhounds (some get Pedigree Chum)

 

[citytilllidie]

Probably shouldn't have bothered but the Liverpool fan was actually the reasonable one in that conversation. With Brian's reference to £1.3b in 10 years I made the argument that(beside it being £1.4m in 8 years apparently), how is any club supposed to catch up to the top European clubs, post 90s? Or is the idea that "it's not fair that anyone should ever catch them up"?

If it were a drag race(I'm not a fan of drag racing but bare with me) and your starting line is 100s of yards behind the "chosen history cars" starting line every race. If you travel any slower than them, you will never catch them. If you even travel at the same speed... you will also never catch them. So you need outpace them with your nitro boost(owner investment) to win a few races and get that starting line moved nearer to theirs. Only when the starting lines are level, can a fair comparison be made, surely?

EUROPE'S BIGGEST SPENDERS
1. Manchester City (£1.4bn)

2. Barcelona (£1.015bn)

3. Paris Saint-Germain (£1.014bn)

4. Chelsea (£1bn)

5. Manchester United (£898m)

6. Real Madrid (£862m)

7. Liverpool (£820m)

8. Juventus (£811m)

That £1.4bn, I reckon could be slashed by 60-70%, if the selling clubs hadn't hiked their fees for players because we were owned by a Sheikh. £50m each for Walker and Mendy ? £25m for Lescott? to name but a few.

 

[Metalartin]

Good analogy that about the drag racing.
Might doctor it (excuse the pun) and use race horses (doped), or maybe greyhounds (some get Pedigree Chum)

Feel free, I don't think doping is a wise term to be using given the United and Liverpool fans conspiracy theories though. :)