Liverpool thread 2019/20

[Machiavelli]

More City bingo.

See my post above in reply to your fellow Littlewoods follower.

They’re pathetic mate, you’re wasting your time.

 

[kaz7]

Interesting. Rather than answer my curiosity about your comment regarding Klopps waste of money, you just respond with comments about dippers.

Regarding the cost of the squad, according to https://www.transferleague.co.uk/homepage/uncategorised/squad-cost-comparisons

It would appear that you do in fact have the most expensive cost of squad, approximately £220 more than Liverpool. I have no way of knowing how accurate this is, but if your squad was created years ago for peanuts there appears to be a contradiction. And yes, I am taking about cost and not worth, as both squads would be worth far more in that case.

Incidentally net spend on the same site shows an even bigger discrepancy, although many people disregard net spend for various reasons.

You have ignored most of my posts esp about mancini and pellers winning the league,now you have gone full dipper with oil club and net spend,no point in continuing this anymore,what the fuck is that link? it doesn't work

 

[kaz7]

Start2finish making some well thought out points. None countered too well. Is it really that important where he's from? Would his point be more valid if he supported a different team?
Klopp has bought extremely well. Karius being the obvious exception but he only cost 4 million.
Net spend only matters when you can only buy once you've sold. City never have to sell to buy really. Liverpool did. Didn't spend the Suarez money well. Spent the Coutinho money extremely well.
Excluding Pep, do you think there are better managers in the league than Klopp?

Pellers has won the title and the cup in his first season so him

 

[GornikDaze]

Pellers has won the title and the cup in his first season so him

Yeah but that doesn’t count he spent oil money!

 

[Start2finish]

Of the current squad, only Sergio, and possibly Fernandinho, was bought before we we financially self-sufficient.

The rest of them have been paid for by the successful off-field activities and income from TV rights.

As a matter of interest, do you know why your club is referred to as Littlewoods FC on here?

Of course. Previously 51% owned by Peter Moore of Littlewoods money. Sold up in 2007 to a couple of dodgy Americans who nearly bankrupted the club.

 

[Airvent]

Pellers has won the title and the cup in his first season so him

Pellers has never finished ahead of Klopp though.
It's ok to say Pep is the best and second is Klopp.

 

[laserblue]

Don't have the details on that. Was it blatant fraud? Like, 'blatant'? My thoughts are: Fraud is bad.

Liverpool failed FFP in 2013 but got away unpunished because they didn't qualify for Europe. City, on the other hand were heavily fined (although two thirds of that fine was repaid the following year) and had restrictions on transfers in and the size of the CL squad which hampered our 2014-15 season. All because UEFA arbitrarily and retrospectively changed the rules on Annex 11 (pre-2010 contracts being discounted for FFP purposes) AFTER City had already submitted their accounts to ensure they failed.

In 2015 they got away with it again. Here are the relevant parts concerning Liverpool from a Daily Telegraph article 26/2/2015 on clubs falling foul of FFP.

"Liverpool are expected to avoid Uefa sanctions, despite being in breach of Financial Fair Play regulations, as they have managed to persuade European football's governing body there were mitigating circumstances for their failure to comply.

Liverpool announced losses of £49.8million for the 2012-13 season and £40.5million for the 12 months prior to that.

Brendan Rodgers' side returned to the Champions League after a six-year absence this season, but Uefa were concerned by the amount of money they lost before finishing second in the Premier League.

Although Uefa launched an investigation and could have punished the club's owners, Fenway Sports, with a heavy fine and enforced a reduction in the size of their squad in European competitions next season – a punishment dished out to Manchester City – they have accepted Liverpool's explanation for the losses.

The 2011-12 accounts reported that £49.6million was associated with Liverpool's stadium costs, £35million coming from former co-owner Tom Hicks' plan to build a new stadium on Stanley Park, which new owners Fenway Sports Group had to scrap."

The article states £35 million rather than the £50 million quoted by other sources at the time but the fact remains that Liverpool avoided FFP sanctions by offsetting much of their FFP losses against the non-existent Stanley Park project when all they ever did was mow the grass a couple of times. All done with a complicit UEFA one of whose members (who also sat on UEFA's IC committee in their recent kangaroo court witch hunt against City) is ex-Liverpool CEO and self confessed lifelong Liverpool fan Rick Parry.

 

[Airvent]

Pellers has never finished ahead of Klopp though.
It's ok to say Pep is the best and second is Klopp.

Wouldn't count Klopp coming in

Pellers has never finished ahead of Klopp though.
It's ok to say Pep is the best and second is Klopp.

Wouldn't count Klopp coming in in mid October

 

[Airvent]

Liverpool failed FFP in 2013 but got away unpunished because they didn't qualify for Europe. City, on the other hand were heavily fined (although two thirds of that fine was repaid the following year) and had restrictions on transfers in and the size of the CL squad which hampered our 2014-15 season. All because UEFA arbitrarily and retrospectively changed the rules on Annex 11 (pre-2010 contracts being discounted for FFP purposes) AFTER City had already submitted their accounts to ensure they failed.

In 2015 they got away with it again. Here are the relevant parts concerning Liverpool from a Daily Telegraph article 26/2/2015 on clubs falling foul of FFP.

"Liverpool are expected to avoid Uefa sanctions, despite being in breach of Financial Fair Play regulations, as they have managed to persuade European football's governing body there were mitigating circumstances for their failure to comply.

Liverpool announced losses of £49.8million for the 2012-13 season and £40.5million for the 12 months prior to that.

Brendan Rodgers' side returned to the Champions League after a six-year absence this season, but Uefa were concerned by the amount of money they lost before finishing second in the Premier League.

Although Uefa launched an investigation and could have punished the club's owners, Fenway Sports, with a heavy fine and enforced a reduction in the size of their squad in European competitions next season – a punishment dished out to Manchester City – they have accepted Liverpool's explanation for the losses.

The 2011-12 accounts reported that £49.6million was associated with Liverpool's stadium costs, £35million coming from former co-owner Tom Hicks' plan to build a new stadium on Stanley Park, which new owners Fenway Sports Group had to scrap."

The article states £35 million rather than the £50 million quoted by other sources at the time but the fact remains that Liverpool avoided FFP sanctions by offsetting much of their FFP losses against the non-existent Stanley Park project when all they ever did was mow the grass a couple of times. All done with a complicit UEFA one of whose members (who also sat on UEFA's IC committee in their recent kangaroo court witch hunt against City) is ex-Liverpool CEO and self confessed lifelong Liverpool fan Rick Parry.

My thoughts: Liverpool were bad. Should've been punished. UEFA dropped the ball on this one.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Can these 'fans' not have their own sub section?

Coming over here clogging up our well justified hatred with their bile.....I've skipped the last umpteen pages, are they still here, any mention of 6 fucking times yet?

If I want to read about them I'd be on a dips forum.