Liverpool thread 2019/20

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Breadsnapper said:
How many times do we have to explain what happened with the coach *welcome* which you conveniently keep playing down? It wasn't a few, it wasn't some it wasn't a minority. Like I have said before but you choose not to answer is why didn't "the decent" fans stop it? If it was just some/a few/ a minority?
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Can you suggest how the "decent" fans could have stopped it?
 
Airvent said:
Nothing about your initial post was ok. You may not have said 'ALL' but you didn't say 'some' either. You generalised which typically means all.
I have condemned the attack on the bus from the start. I never want to see that anywhere, but at the end of the day it's a bus. What happened was criminal and there should've been arrests. It might even happen again and if it does I hope that it's dealt with the way it should've been last year. However, you jump from that to suggesting that those fans who threw projectiles at the bus would willingly duplicate an act where 39 people lost there lives?
Not even a thoughtless throw away comment either as you try to justify your stance on the matter. No slow build up, just a simple step from vandalism to murder.
Your post was not ok and sadly you don't realise it. This is why I'm cross with you. Transferring guilt? FFS.
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'At the end of the day it was a bus' your attitude right there, glossing over the facts. It was far from a bus, it was a team coach delivering your opposition to your ground, so intimidation in order to gain an advantage. It was far from a bus, it was a luxury coach costing more than the hotel you live in , probably in the region of £350k. The damage ran into 000's of pounds that someone has to pay for. The missiles shattering windows could easily have hurt passengers, . The likelihood of eye injuries is high in such incidents. Crowding a coach like that, throwing missiles at the driver could have resulted in losing control and ploughing into the crowd - no doubt there would have been z public enquiry following a detailed a very public investigation with outpouring from 'victims' You still dont get it to this day, and that is the whole point being made. It wasn't just the fans en route, it was that fucking idiot Klopp egging them on to give them an Anfield welcome, it was the Liverpool fans sites urging a pint and pyro party, and it was the rejection of our clubs concerns beforehand. You might say it's not all the fans and I have a couple of mates that support LFC that are decent guys, and say it was wrong, but deep down they love this Scouse not English' fucking culture where everyone is a world class comedian, life of the party , everything's a craic. It's fair to say you ARE different. Scousers are unique, but Liverpool scousers are arrogant with it. Success on the pitch does not make you special by association, European royalty and it means more bollocks , and why when you're on holiday is there always a whining family of scousers in replica shirts on the plane?
 
He won't go now he is favourite to end the dippers thirty year wait for a title but I believe he would go there at the end of the season if they wait for him.
 
Personally I don't think Klipperty gives a shit about the cult, it's all about him and if he goes to Bayern he is pretty much guaranteed a title which will boost his ego probably more. Winning a title with Bayern is far easier than over here...
 
A couple of Liverpool fans I know who are season ticket holders are convinced he’s off to there in a couple of years.

He won’t go yet when he’s got a chance to win the PL.
 
Airvent said:
You said they would do it again if they could. I find that to be both untrue and to think it disgusting. What happened there was horrific, and as much as you'd love to believe that all Liverpool fans, (you did tar us all with the same brush here), would set out to murder opposition fans is appalling. We're feral beasts and we don't learn? Is this because some gobshites threw missiles at a bus or have there been other incidents to support your ridiculous notions?
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I fully believe 'they' would do it again. No remorse shown, no lessons learned judging by recent events. ''Just a bus'' speaks volumes ffs.
 
MCFCTrick said:
I fully believe 'they' would do it again. No remorse shown, no lessons learned judging by recent events. ''Just a bus'' speaks volumes ffs.
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"Just a bus" taken out of context sounds bad given the circumstances surrounding the incident. It was appallingy badly managed (or extremely well managed depending upon your perspective) but to suggest that it in any way compares to the deaths of 39 people is, in my opinion, a leap too far.
I am not defending in any way the worse elements of the Liverpool fanbase. Their charge sheet is long and ugly and whilst I am sure it is a minority, it is a significant minority and one that we see time and again. I just do not think it entirely fair to make ad hominem attacks on @Airvent who has by and large been openly critical of wrongdoing by supporters of his club.
 
Who cares about Klopp or Bayern, without the aid of bent refs, he would still be potless over here.... Not on the same planet as our Pep, I'd rate Brenda higher in fact, as he like Pep, improves players, Klopp does not ...... Happy when he does piss off though, the moaning, goofy ****... :-)
 
Airvent said:
You said they would do it again if they could. I find that to be both untrue and to think it disgusting. What happened there was horrific, and as much as you'd love to believe that all Liverpool fans, (you did tar us all with the same brush here), would set out to murder opposition fans is appalling. We're feral beasts and we don't learn? Is this because some gobshites threw missiles at a bus or have there been other incidents to support your ridiculous notions?
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If you don't like it do one !
 
Can't imagine Klopp being interested. No chance of playing the "plucky underdog" there.
 
DrBlueBob said:
"Just a bus" taken out of context sounds bad given the circumstances surrounding the incident. It was appallingy badly managed (or extremely well managed depending upon your perspective) but to suggest that it in any way compares to the deaths of 39 people is, in my opinion, a leap too far.
I am not defending in any way the worse elements of the Liverpool fanbase. Their charge sheet is long and ugly and whilst I am sure it is a minority, it is a significant minority and one that we see time and again. I just do not think it entirely fair to make ad hominem attacks on @Airvent who has by and large been openly critical of wrongdoing by supporters of his club.
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I didn't say Airbag himself would do it, my 'attack' on him was in regards of him playing down the bus incident by such a throwaway comment. We all know it could very easily have ended in serious injury and deaths, and not just to those onboard. To call it 'just a bus' in context as he did, is a prime example of how frivolously many of their lot see it being. And that by being both seen and treated as such, is why the feral twunts are happy to try and organise another attack.
 
MCFCTrick said:
I didn't say Airbag himself would do it, my 'attack' on him was in regards of him playing down the bus incident. It could very easily have ended in serious injury and deaths, and not just to those onboard. To call it 'just a bus' in context as he did, is a prime example of how frivolously many of their lot see it being. And that by being both seen and treated as such, is why the feral twunts are happy to try and organise another attack.
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My line 'just a bus' was merely stating that nobody was even near hurt, physically. Quite the leap to Heysel.
 
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