Liverpool thread 2019/20

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OliMCFC said:
One thing I really don't understand about The Athletic... Sam doing the City stuff, Rafa Honigstein, Ornstein, Pitt-Brookes all brilliant writers... then James bloody Pearce. Utter c**t
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Simple economics, I guess. They claimed they would be different, but like so many media outlets will ultimately pander to their largest global audiences (i.e. Liverpool and United). Hence we get the likes of Pearce, Hughes and Andy Mitten serving up partisan, Pravda-esque shit, whilst subscriptions are cancelled at a rate of knots on the blue halves of Manchester and Merseyside.
 
Ric said:
Simple economics, I guess. They claimed they would be different, but like so many media outlets will ultimately pander to their largest global audiences (i.e. Liverpool and United). Hence we get the likes of Pearce, Hughes and Andy Mitten serving up partisan, Pravda-esque shit, whilst subscriptions are cancelled at a rate of knots on the blue halves of Manchester and Merseyside.
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I only read the City (and a few NFL) articles, and they are very enjoyable and well written, though I don’t think I will be resubscribing when my current one runs out.
 
I would prefer Chelsea to be successful in signing Timo Werner.
My reasons being that he could bring the team back to being a serious title challenger
and that it stops the dippers from getting too strong, so that there is no chance of them running away with the title aver again.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
The dippers wouldn’t pay his release clause, what happened to those record breaking profits they were bragging about?
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I've been reading on Twitter LFC won't pay the fee because they feel it will break FFP in the future (related in reduction in income due to covid-19 pandemic).
 
Jimbo Jones said:
I've been reading on Twitter LFC won't pay the fee because they feel it will break FFP in the future (related in reduction in income due to covid-19 pandemic).
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If you are champions and you don’t strengthen things go stale. We’ve seen that in the past when City have had poor transfer windows after winning the league and finished miles off the season after.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
If you are champions and you don’t strengthen things go stale. We’ve seen that in the past when City have had poor transfer windows after winning the league and finished miles off the season after.
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I think we’ll definitely bring two or three in. Not arsed one bit who they are, if Klopp wants them, that’s good enough for me. That Werner looks half decent, but does too much yapping in the press for my liking. Don’t see too many big fees happening this summer though.
 
Greggery Peccary said:
I think we’ll definitely bring two or three in. Not arsed one bit who they are, if Klopp wants them, that’s good enough for me. That Werner looks half decent, but does too much yapping in the press for my liking. Don’t see too many big fees happening this summer though.
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I don’t need neither, the bubble had burst players need to be realistic asking what wages they want and clubs on the transfer fee. A big period of readjustment there ain’t any certainties for next year which will make it interesting.
 
Grassland Blue said:
I would prefer Chelsea to be successful in signing Timo Werner.
My reasons being that he could bring the team back to being a serious title challenger
and that it stops the dippers from getting too strong, so that there is no chance of them running away with the title aver again.
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If we want to stop the Dippers running away with the title someone needs to sign Michael Oliver and Kevin Friend pronto.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
I don’t need neither, the bubble had burst players need to be realistic asking what wages they want and clubs on the transfer fee. A big period of readjustment there ain’t any certainties for next year which will make it interesting.
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I don’t think our business will be that different from yours to be fair. Similar numbers coming in. My own take is that this is the golden chance for the up and coming youth players to save their clubs money. I think we’ll see Jones for us and Foden for you a lot more next year. I know you’ve got one or two other top prospects, think one of them’s double barrelled or something, who will get loads more minutes. Boss when kids break through into the firsts, massive boost for the crowd too.
 
To me wages are something that a working man gets for his 40hrs.
They come in a small brown envelope with the cash poking out of the bottom so you can check it's correct.
Can you imagine Dirty Sanchez rocking up to the pay clerk and collecting his wages like that?
No it's not a wage, it's something else. Not sure what you'd call it but it's not firkin wages!
Signing on fees have been ridiculous for a long time too, pushed ever upwards by a certain few clubs.
When even City, or other similar sized clubs baulk at the costs, then it only serves to highlight how shocking the situation is.
 
Grassland Blue said:
To me wages are something that a working man gets for his 40hrs.
They come in a small brown envelope with the cash poking out of the bottom so you can check it's correct.
Can you imagine Dirty Sanchez rocking up to the pay clerk and collecting his wages like that?
No it's not a wage, it's something else. Not sure what you'd call it but it's not firkin wages!
Signing on fees have been ridiculous for a long time too, pushed ever upwards by a certain few clubs.
When even City, or other similar sized clubs baulk at the costs, then it only serves to highlight how shocking the situation is.
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In common parlance it can be explained as, football has disappeared up it's own arse.
 
`This Means More`

The McDonald’s Kop "means more". What Liverpool do "means more".

We are told that most of what Liverpool does apparently has a deeper meaning than the achievements of others. We are constantly drip fed through the media and LFC`s marketing that somehow their feelings are more intense and stronger than those of fans at every other club - Everton, City, Utd, Ajax, Borussia Dortmund, Napoli, Galatasaray, Boca Juniors and so on. No matter how much you feel for your club, it means more for Liverpool fans.

Just as it means more, according to today`s club official statement, for their relegated Women`s team. This side were bottom of the league, had only won one game the entire season and had demonstrated that they were simply not good enough. Yet the headlines run with their "disappointment" and the inference that had the season resumed they would have embarked upon a climb up the table to avoid the drop. Apparently because they were part of the original members of the new Women`s league back in their day this was relevant to performances in 2020.

It means more and it is this superior attitude and arrogance that permeates the entire club. Their followers in the media are little better.

Turning to Liverpool`s friends in the press, much of what The Guardian`s writer, Jonathan Liew, has said in his piece about sports brand insincerity, which applies to many clubs and organisations, is accurate -

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/b...uch-for-corporate-sports-on-brand-insincerity

Liew is intelligent and a gifted writer when the mood takes him. It makes it all the more surprising, or maybe not, that there is no mention in his article, just like the absence of the 35th Anniversary of Heysel this week, of the high profile league leaders, Champions League winners and Club World Cup holders, Liverpool, about their taking of the knee. Here we had a glaring example that he could have better used to convey some of his valid points. With LFC`s sponsors logo clearly visible, a photographer who just happened to be on hand to capture the far from spontaneous gesture, an empty stadium, and players and staff all posed in evenly fixed positions around the centre circle, the supportive picture was quickly distributed to media outlets.

Was this yet another act of `This Means More` self promotion, one worthy of critical yet fair observation especially given that it was an English paper, written for a English audience and this was an `English` club, even though there are elements who describe themselves as "Scouse not English". This is the club that gave wide and much publicised backing to Suárez. This is not mentioned though. Instead it is a foreign club Barca that are singled out for criticism, not the untouchables in red.

How do we explain why, on a national platform, The Guardian`s writer eschewed the opportunity to make really meaningful comments relating to the Premier League and somehow avoided using the profile of the team at the top? His comments could have resonated with a much wider audience had he done so.

Many more should question why, `This Means More` ?

(I acknowledge, with thanks, the comments of others in the media thread).
 
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