Liverpool thread 2020/21

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There's many parallels with the Moyesiah 13/14 season at United, with the Liverpool 20/21 season.

The same:
Almost the same squad as the previous title winning season.
Talk of a 'new dynasty' bandied about.
An ageing squad, pushed to the limit the previous season by a manager desperate for the title.
No new decent team recruitment.
Entitled fans, believing their and the media's hype that their football success will continue as before and they are the 'biggest and best team in the land' (TM).

To be seen:
Really bad title defence, United 1st -> 7th, Liverpool 1st -> 6th and falling...
Points difference at end of season compared with previous, United 25, Liverpool 33 and increasing...
Manager sacked when PL 4th position (and also knocked out of CL) becomes impossible.

To me, it has that same feel about it. Stupendous.
 
Amazing how they accuse us of celebrating a victory at Anfield like we won a cup.

That was a massive victory, not so much in that it could clinch a league or cup, but as a psychological hurdle. Its absolutely huge as so many of our teams have raised a white flag before a ball has been kicked due to such an inferior mentality. Suppose its what a manager who has won it all brings, plus you need a bit of luck.

Also they forget last year they won with the Pickford error and Klopp was legging all around the pitch as the match was still being played!!! But no thats just passion isnt it?!!
Yes, how dare Everton be happy about winning a game we haven't won since 1999, especially Tom Davies (an actual Everton fan), Duncan Ferguson (old enough to remember the last time) and Seamus Coleman (never beaten Liverpool at Anfield with Everton and was around during the Martinez years, when we suffered one of our most embarrassing defeats ever, to the point where Klopp was laughing at us). Only Liverpool are allowed to celebrate victories. If they don't get why it's so important to both fans and players, they don't get football.
 
It’s funny really, last season I was resigned to the fact that Liverpool would be title challengers for the next few years if not longer.

But hindsight is a wonderful thing, and I now think they’ve truly bottled it.

They threw absolutely everything towards last season’s title and the UCL before that. Purposefully disregarding cups, spending hundreds of millions on players in their prime (despite age and limited resale value), flogging the same XI for two seasons, and completely failing to plan for the future, instead buying players like Origi and Minamino, and keeping an injured Ox on the sidelines.

Add to that: everything their fan base did to edge them over the line (e.g. bus wrecking), the sickening media support, the compulsive diving, the VAR decisions, COVID, hacking, and sheer luck.

And what do you get? In all their short sighted desperation, something that increasingly looks like a one-off PL title. Not the sort of domestic dominance they’d want you to believe.
It’s almost unbelievable how much they’ve declined. There were no signs at all that they would plummet. They were head and shoulders better than everyone else last season, and we looked on the decline (we looked slower, like something had been sucked out of us and like that great team of the last decade was coming to its end).

They aren’t particularly technical to watch with the ball, quite simple football really. But the balance of their attack from their full backs and front three was dangerous as fuck, all they needed in midfield between that was legs and energy.

Their decline is hard to fathom. It’s got nothing to do with defensive injuries because Gomez and Matip were injured for long spells of the previous two seasons and van Dijk played in the 7-2 hammering at Villa when things had already started to show signs of going wrong.

It’s something else.

One thing I’ve always noticed the season after we’ve won the league is how much harder other teams “try” against us. There’s definitely a difference between playing against one of the top sides to playing against the champions. To get the champions’ scalp is the biggest thing a lot of these other sides will ever achieve, and it is a big thing, that’s why they celebrate like they’ve won the league at the final whistle when they’ve beaten us as champions over the years. It’s like the team sport version of getting a PB in athletics.

I don’t think Liverpool’s players have coped with that very well at all. Teams are matching them for energy because they’re the champions and their simple football tactics aren’t overriding that.

I think it’s showing that they were better than everyone else last season and almost better than everyone else the season before because they worked harder than everyone else. They obviously had a lot of quality as well, but the biggest factor was their work rate and energy. That’s why they had so much “luck” (no such thing as luck in reality), because they were always prepared to capitalise on an opportunity when they arrived through their work rate and teams couldn’t handle it.

But as champions, they’re facing teams working as hard as them now.

Also, I think teams have realised that if you push on against their full backs, their attack breaks down a lot more. 4-4-2 against them works quite well. Burnley City(2nd half) Everton all played 4-4-2 against them in recent games.

Again, their lack of tactical adaptability is not overriding that.
 
I remember it felt like the world had shifted when we beat the scum in the semi final before we beat Stoke in the final.

I hope yesterday was the same moment for Everton against the bus wreckers
I think the very moment it all changed was when Scholes got sent off. It was where it felt like they’d got desperate and had ran out of ideas and they’d seen their arse about it knowing they were second best.

That very moment in time you could feel it in the stands that it was a monumental shift in football history.
 
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