Liverpool thread 2020/21

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M18CTID said:
From the RAWK thread on the Fulham game:

Decisions this game (For/against) - nothing to do with how well/poorly Liverpool are playing - just wondering just how shite Friend is.


[=] Correct decision (Neither for/against Liverpool or Fulham)
[-] Incorrect decision (against Liverpool)
  • Incorrect decision (for Liverpool)


Number shows comparison between for/against


FIRST HALF


00:07 Blatent foul on our Williams. Utterly ignored by the ‘referee’. Liverpool players go mad. [-1] [-1]
01:17 Afters on Jota. Totally ignored by the ‘referee’ [-1] [-2]
01:58 Salah blocked off in the area - arm across his throat. Probably a penalty. Of course this is ignored by the ‘referee’ and VAR takes no action [-1] [-3]
04:01 Williams fouled again - ‘Referee’ gives a decision, but it wasn’t as bad as the earlier Williams foul or the foul on Jota or the penno appeal [=] [-3]
07:33 Keita adjudged to have fouled the Fulham player. Didn’t look much in it. No replay from Sly, so suggests it wasn’t a foul [=] [-3]
13:13 Shakiri fouled. Referee not interested [-1] [-4]
16:10 Salah flagged offside. No replay from Sly. Didn’t look offside. [-1] [-5]
16:55 Liverpool flagged offside (looks correct) - Referee plays advantage for Fulham [=] [-5]
17:18 Keita fouled. Referee gives nothing [-1] [-6]
19:25 Milner goes for the ball. Nothing in it. No one appealing. Referee gives foul to Fulham. Even they look surprised. [-1] [-7]
20:05 Salah fouled. Referee plays advantage. Correct decision. [=] [-7]
21:38 Williams pushes the Fulham player. Foul given. Correct decision [=] [-7]
22:20 Shakira pushed in the back while in the air trying to head away. Nothing given. [-1] [-8]
23:15 Fulham given offside. Looks the correct decision. No replay from Sly [=] [-8]
24:45 Liverpool adjudged to have fouled the Fulham player. Referee plays advantage. Correct decision. [=] [-8]
26:16 Keita kicked from behind. Ref doesn’t play advantage or make any decision. [-1] [-9]
27:58 Fulham player with a high boot on Allisson. No freekick given to the keeper. Seen keepers given those all season [-1] [-10]
28:50 Fulham player offside. No flag. Nearly scores. [-1] [-11]
30:45 Liverpool player flagged for being offside. Looks the correct decision. [=] [-11]
32:45 Williams fouled. Referee gives nothing. [-1] [-12]
37:10 Jota fouled. Referee gives a foul to Liverpool(!!) and a yellow to Fulham!! Yellow looked harsh [+1] [-11]
39:03 Williams fouled again. Referee gives a foul to Liverpool [=] [-11]
39:45 Milner fouled. Referee ignores it. [-1] [-12]
40:45 Fulham player dives in the area Nothing in it. Referee gives nothing. Correct decision. [=] [-12]
40:50 Jota fouls Lemina. Jota is booked. Yeah bit naughty. Correct decision. [=] [-12]
42:33 Shakiri fouled. Referee ignores it. [-1] [-13]
43:50 Shakiri adjudged to have fouled Cavalairo. Yeah was a foul. Correct decision. [=] [-13]
44:20 High boot on Robertson in the area. Nothing given. Leads to a goal. [-1] [-14]




SECOND HALF IMPARTIAL LOOK AT THE OFFICIALS (Still nothing to do with how well/badly Liverpool are playing)


46:05 Jota fouled then pulled back. Yellow card to Fulham. Freekick to Liverpool. Correct decision. [=] [-14]
48:35 Possible handball in the area. Nothing given. VAR Doesn’t look at it. His hands were by his side, so probably correct. No replay from Sly [=] [-14]
55:40 Referee gives the Fulham keeper a foul. The interesting thing is the keeper shoves Salah in the back. Possible penno. Not looked at by VAR, but not usually given.. [=] [-14]
58:33 Gini shoves the Fulham player over. Referee played advantage so saw the foul. [=] [-14]
60:00 Foul by Keita? on Lemina. Referee gives the freekick. No replay from Sly, but I’ll assume it’s correct as I didn’t really see it.. [=] [-15]
61:28 Williams fouled. Referee ignores it. Nearly leads to another Fulham goal. Williams limping [-1] [-16]
62:00 Foul to Fulham. Lookman adjudged to have been fouled by Milner. Looked very soft for a dangerous free kick... but we’ll say that was possibly a correct decision [=] [-16]
63:18 Shakiri fouled by Reed. Foul given. Correct decision. [=] [-16]
67:06 Shakiri booted. Clear foul. Referee ignores it even though Liverpool break. [-1] [-17]
69:15 Milner fouled. Ignored by the referee. [-1] [-18]
72:15 Fulham appeal for a foul. Referee ignores the first possible Liverpool foul of the game [+1] [-17]
73:13 Keita pulled back and Fulham break. Ignored by the referee. [-1] [-18]
75:35 Freekick awarded against Fulham player. Didn’t see anything wrong there to be honest. [+1] [-17]
77:50 Fulham appeal for a foul against Robertson. Ignored by the referee.. [+1] [-16]
80:20 Handball by Fulham. Ignored by the referee. [-1] [-17]
84:05 Offside flag against Liverpool. Not sure about that. No replay from Sly.. Assume it was correct? [=] [-17]
85:34 Handball by Fulham. Ignored by the referee [-1] [-18]
86:15 Offside flag against Liverpool. Sly show this one. Maybe offside? [=] [-18]
89:00 Keita fouled. Foul awarded. [=] [-18]
90:55 Mane shoved over in front of the area. Nothing given. [-1] [-19]
92:00 Liverpool take a quick corner. Liverpool made to take it again. [-1] [-20]
92:37 Fabinho fouled. Ignored by the referee [-1] [-21]
92:40 Keita fouls the breaking player. Correct decision. Yellow carded. [=] [-21]
95:06 Liverpool awarded a free kick and Mitrovich booked [=] [-21]


Liverpool were poor again, but Friend showed a clear bias against Liverpool for the whole game. He wasn’t quite as bad in the second half.


Friends decisions didn’t lead to Liverpool losing the game, but that’s not why I recorded this. It was to see if I was imagining how bad the referees are.




Referee rating: Twonk Grade IV
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Have to say we can all be sad sometimes, but to have sat and watched the game that way. No doubt having to keep pausing it does take the biscuit.
You can almost imagine him getting more and more annoyed as he went on with any semblance of impartiality disappearing after about 5minutes.
M18CTID said:
The thing is, regardless of what he has achieved at Liverpool - and to be fair he's done what he promised in his first press conference when he said he'd win them the Premier League title - this run of results isn't so much as a blip as a full blown crisis which has similarities to his final season at Dortmund, and those calling for him to go do have a point. If Pep had presided over a run like that then this forum would be in total meltdown.

It truly is a staggering regression though. Nobody who predicted burnout, luck running out with injuries, etc, could've predicted a sequence of results as bad as this. United must be kicking themselves that they didn't go for it more back in January at Anfield, otherwise it could well be 7 home league defeats on the spin. I would add though that I thought they played quite well in the first half of our game there and after Gundogan missed the penalty, it was definitely in the balance at half time. Thankfully we stepped it up hugely in the second half and although they drew level, we played them off the park in the end.
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A completely mad season and series of events and it does appear that the stars are maybe aligning for him to walk away.
It would be the same for any well thought of English manger should Southgate go from his job. He has done what he said and with the downturn, a possible feeling that he isn't being supported by FSG and a desire to maybe closer to family back home. He could really be thinking about his position.
I wonder if we could steal Allardyce from WBA to save us from relegation?
 
Toffeedude said:
I would be happy with FA cup and Thursday nights for Everton in the next few months
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You haven't spent 30 years telling everyone that you're European royalty and the last 2 years telling everyone that you're going to dominate the league for a decade though I'm guessing?
 
5 Hit Gibbon said:
It's like the script is writing itself for Slippy G to return.

Who would want to be a DJ in Liverpool. They have not been able to work due to Covid, then when things open back up again, they may have to run the gauntlet of having Gerrard back in the town, with the fear of getting punched for not playing Phil Collins for him!
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Can you feel it coming in the air tonight..?
 
jamesha said:
And turned into a cockney pub team by signing the likes of Ruddock and Dicks. Mind you both would probably get into their current team even if they are both in their 50's.
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With the help of some top quality engine oil they could grease Ruddock up and wedge him between the posts. They would never concede another goal.
 
M18CTID said:
From the RAWK thread on the Fulham game:

Decisions this game (For/against) - nothing to do with how well/poorly Liverpool are playing - just wondering just how shite Friend is.


[=] Correct decision (Neither for/against Liverpool or Fulham)
[-] Incorrect decision (against Liverpool)
  • Incorrect decision (for Liverpool)


Number shows comparison between for/against


FIRST HALF


00:07 Blatent foul on our Williams. Utterly ignored by the ‘referee’. Liverpool players go mad. [-1] [-1]
01:17 Afters on Jota. Totally ignored by the ‘referee’ [-1] [-2]
01:58 Salah blocked off in the area - arm across his throat. Probably a penalty. Of course this is ignored by the ‘referee’ and VAR takes no action [-1] [-3]
04:01 Williams fouled again - ‘Referee’ gives a decision, but it wasn’t as bad as the earlier Williams foul or the foul on Jota or the penno appeal [=] [-3]
07:33 Keita adjudged to have fouled the Fulham player. Didn’t look much in it. No replay from Sly, so suggests it wasn’t a foul [=] [-3]
13:13 Shakiri fouled. Referee not interested [-1] [-4]
16:10 Salah flagged offside. No replay from Sly. Didn’t look offside. [-1] [-5]
16:55 Liverpool flagged offside (looks correct) - Referee plays advantage for Fulham [=] [-5]
17:18 Keita fouled. Referee gives nothing [-1] [-6]
19:25 Milner goes for the ball. Nothing in it. No one appealing. Referee gives foul to Fulham. Even they look surprised. [-1] [-7]
20:05 Salah fouled. Referee plays advantage. Correct decision. [=] [-7]
21:38 Williams pushes the Fulham player. Foul given. Correct decision [=] [-7]
22:20 Shakira pushed in the back while in the air trying to head away. Nothing given. [-1] [-8]
23:15 Fulham given offside. Looks the correct decision. No replay from Sly [=] [-8]
24:45 Liverpool adjudged to have fouled the Fulham player. Referee plays advantage. Correct decision. [=] [-8]
26:16 Keita kicked from behind. Ref doesn’t play advantage or make any decision. [-1] [-9]
27:58 Fulham player with a high boot on Allisson. No freekick given to the keeper. Seen keepers given those all season [-1] [-10]
28:50 Fulham player offside. No flag. Nearly scores. [-1] [-11]
30:45 Liverpool player flagged for being offside. Looks the correct decision. [=] [-11]
32:45 Williams fouled. Referee gives nothing. [-1] [-12]
37:10 Jota fouled. Referee gives a foul to Liverpool(!!) and a yellow to Fulham!! Yellow looked harsh [+1] [-11]
39:03 Williams fouled again. Referee gives a foul to Liverpool [=] [-11]
39:45 Milner fouled. Referee ignores it. [-1] [-12]
40:45 Fulham player dives in the area Nothing in it. Referee gives nothing. Correct decision. [=] [-12]
40:50 Jota fouls Lemina. Jota is booked. Yeah bit naughty. Correct decision. [=] [-12]
42:33 Shakiri fouled. Referee ignores it. [-1] [-13]
43:50 Shakiri adjudged to have fouled Cavalairo. Yeah was a foul. Correct decision. [=] [-13]
44:20 High boot on Robertson in the area. Nothing given. Leads to a goal. [-1] [-14]




SECOND HALF IMPARTIAL LOOK AT THE OFFICIALS (Still nothing to do with how well/badly Liverpool are playing)


46:05 Jota fouled then pulled back. Yellow card to Fulham. Freekick to Liverpool. Correct decision. [=] [-14]
48:35 Possible handball in the area. Nothing given. VAR Doesn’t look at it. His hands were by his side, so probably correct. No replay from Sly [=] [-14]
55:40 Referee gives the Fulham keeper a foul. The interesting thing is the keeper shoves Salah in the back. Possible penno. Not looked at by VAR, but not usually given.. [=] [-14]
58:33 Gini shoves the Fulham player over. Referee played advantage so saw the foul. [=] [-14]
60:00 Foul by Keita? on Lemina. Referee gives the freekick. No replay from Sly, but I’ll assume it’s correct as I didn’t really see it.. [=] [-15]
61:28 Williams fouled. Referee ignores it. Nearly leads to another Fulham goal. Williams limping [-1] [-16]
62:00 Foul to Fulham. Lookman adjudged to have been fouled by Milner. Looked very soft for a dangerous free kick... but we’ll say that was possibly a correct decision [=] [-16]
63:18 Shakiri fouled by Reed. Foul given. Correct decision. [=] [-16]
67:06 Shakiri booted. Clear foul. Referee ignores it even though Liverpool break. [-1] [-17]
69:15 Milner fouled. Ignored by the referee. [-1] [-18]
72:15 Fulham appeal for a foul. Referee ignores the first possible Liverpool foul of the game [+1] [-17]
73:13 Keita pulled back and Fulham break. Ignored by the referee. [-1] [-18]
75:35 Freekick awarded against Fulham player. Didn’t see anything wrong there to be honest. [+1] [-17]
77:50 Fulham appeal for a foul against Robertson. Ignored by the referee.. [+1] [-16]
80:20 Handball by Fulham. Ignored by the referee. [-1] [-17]
84:05 Offside flag against Liverpool. Not sure about that. No replay from Sly.. Assume it was correct? [=] [-17]
85:34 Handball by Fulham. Ignored by the referee [-1] [-18]
86:15 Offside flag against Liverpool. Sly show this one. Maybe offside? [=] [-18]
89:00 Keita fouled. Foul awarded. [=] [-18]
90:55 Mane shoved over in front of the area. Nothing given. [-1] [-19]
92:00 Liverpool take a quick corner. Liverpool made to take it again. [-1] [-20]
92:37 Fabinho fouled. Ignored by the referee [-1] [-21]
92:40 Keita fouls the breaking player. Correct decision. Yellow carded. [=] [-21]
95:06 Liverpool awarded a free kick and Mitrovich booked [=] [-21]


Liverpool were poor again, but Friend showed a clear bias against Liverpool for the whole game. He wasn’t quite as bad in the second half.


Friends decisions didn’t lead to Liverpool losing the game, but that’s not why I recorded this. It was to see if I was imagining how bad the referees are.




Referee rating: Twonk Grade IV
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Wow. Lost for words. Somebody needs to get out !
 
M18CTID said:
From the RAWK thread on the Fulham game:

Decisions this game (For/against) - nothing to do with how well/poorly Liverpool are playing - just wondering just how shite Friend is.


[=] Correct decision (Neither for/against Liverpool or Fulham)
[-] Incorrect decision (against Liverpool)
  • Incorrect decision (for Liverpool)


Number shows comparison between for/against


FIRST HALF


00:07 Blatent foul on our Williams. Utterly ignored by the ‘referee’. Liverpool players go mad. [-1] [-1]
01:17 Afters on Jota. Totally ignored by the ‘referee’ [-1] [-2]
01:58 Salah blocked off in the area - arm across his throat. Probably a penalty. Of course this is ignored by the ‘referee’ and VAR takes no action [-1] [-3]
04:01 Williams fouled again - ‘Referee’ gives a decision, but it wasn’t as bad as the earlier Williams foul or the foul on Jota or the penno appeal [=] [-3]
07:33 Keita adjudged to have fouled the Fulham player. Didn’t look much in it. No replay from Sly, so suggests it wasn’t a foul [=] [-3]
13:13 Shakiri fouled. Referee not interested [-1] [-4]
16:10 Salah flagged offside. No replay from Sly. Didn’t look offside. [-1] [-5]
16:55 Liverpool flagged offside (looks correct) - Referee plays advantage for Fulham [=] [-5]
17:18 Keita fouled. Referee gives nothing [-1] [-6]
19:25 Milner goes for the ball. Nothing in it. No one appealing. Referee gives foul to Fulham. Even they look surprised. [-1] [-7]
20:05 Salah fouled. Referee plays advantage. Correct decision. [=] [-7]
21:38 Williams pushes the Fulham player. Foul given. Correct decision [=] [-7]
22:20 Shakira pushed in the back while in the air trying to head away. Nothing given. [-1] [-8]
23:15 Fulham given offside. Looks the correct decision. No replay from Sly [=] [-8]
24:45 Liverpool adjudged to have fouled the Fulham player. Referee plays advantage. Correct decision. [=] [-8]
26:16 Keita kicked from behind. Ref doesn’t play advantage or make any decision. [-1] [-9]
27:58 Fulham player with a high boot on Allisson. No freekick given to the keeper. Seen keepers given those all season [-1] [-10]
28:50 Fulham player offside. No flag. Nearly scores. [-1] [-11]
30:45 Liverpool player flagged for being offside. Looks the correct decision. [=] [-11]
32:45 Williams fouled. Referee gives nothing. [-1] [-12]
37:10 Jota fouled. Referee gives a foul to Liverpool(!!) and a yellow to Fulham!! Yellow looked harsh [+1] [-11]
39:03 Williams fouled again. Referee gives a foul to Liverpool [=] [-11]
39:45 Milner fouled. Referee ignores it. [-1] [-12]
40:45 Fulham player dives in the area Nothing in it. Referee gives nothing. Correct decision. [=] [-12]
40:50 Jota fouls Lemina. Jota is booked. Yeah bit naughty. Correct decision. [=] [-12]
42:33 Shakiri fouled. Referee ignores it. [-1] [-13]
43:50 Shakiri adjudged to have fouled Cavalairo. Yeah was a foul. Correct decision. [=] [-13]
44:20 High boot on Robertson in the area. Nothing given. Leads to a goal. [-1] [-14]




SECOND HALF IMPARTIAL LOOK AT THE OFFICIALS (Still nothing to do with how well/badly Liverpool are playing)


46:05 Jota fouled then pulled back. Yellow card to Fulham. Freekick to Liverpool. Correct decision. [=] [-14]
48:35 Possible handball in the area. Nothing given. VAR Doesn’t look at it. His hands were by his side, so probably correct. No replay from Sly [=] [-14]
55:40 Referee gives the Fulham keeper a foul. The interesting thing is the keeper shoves Salah in the back. Possible penno. Not looked at by VAR, but not usually given.. [=] [-14]
58:33 Gini shoves the Fulham player over. Referee played advantage so saw the foul. [=] [-14]
60:00 Foul by Keita? on Lemina. Referee gives the freekick. No replay from Sly, but I’ll assume it’s correct as I didn’t really see it.. [=] [-15]
61:28 Williams fouled. Referee ignores it. Nearly leads to another Fulham goal. Williams limping [-1] [-16]
62:00 Foul to Fulham. Lookman adjudged to have been fouled by Milner. Looked very soft for a dangerous free kick... but we’ll say that was possibly a correct decision [=] [-16]
63:18 Shakiri fouled by Reed. Foul given. Correct decision. [=] [-16]
67:06 Shakiri booted. Clear foul. Referee ignores it even though Liverpool break. [-1] [-17]
69:15 Milner fouled. Ignored by the referee. [-1] [-18]
72:15 Fulham appeal for a foul. Referee ignores the first possible Liverpool foul of the game [+1] [-17]
73:13 Keita pulled back and Fulham break. Ignored by the referee. [-1] [-18]
75:35 Freekick awarded against Fulham player. Didn’t see anything wrong there to be honest. [+1] [-17]
77:50 Fulham appeal for a foul against Robertson. Ignored by the referee.. [+1] [-16]
80:20 Handball by Fulham. Ignored by the referee. [-1] [-17]
84:05 Offside flag against Liverpool. Not sure about that. No replay from Sly.. Assume it was correct? [=] [-17]
85:34 Handball by Fulham. Ignored by the referee [-1] [-18]
86:15 Offside flag against Liverpool. Sly show this one. Maybe offside? [=] [-18]
89:00 Keita fouled. Foul awarded. [=] [-18]
90:55 Mane shoved over in front of the area. Nothing given. [-1] [-19]
92:00 Liverpool take a quick corner. Liverpool made to take it again. [-1] [-20]
92:37 Fabinho fouled. Ignored by the referee [-1] [-21]
92:40 Keita fouls the breaking player. Correct decision. Yellow carded. [=] [-21]
95:06 Liverpool awarded a free kick and Mitrovich booked [=] [-21]


Liverpool were poor again, but Friend showed a clear bias against Liverpool for the whole game. He wasn’t quite as bad in the second half.


Friends decisions didn’t lead to Liverpool losing the game, but that’s not why I recorded this. It was to see if I was imagining how bad the referees are.




Referee rating: Twonk Grade IV
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They have an injection available in Switzerland to treat people with his condition.
 
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