Liverpool thread 2020/21

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feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
The only figure that matters is points in the league and trophies won. Pep has spent money but he has potentially 3 league titles 4 league cup and an Fa cup.

How much money have United spent in that time and won nothing, struggled to qualify for the champions league and when they do qualify they are out before Christmas. Football is an arms race, if you don’t spend you get left behind Chelsea went big last summer and are starting to see the rewards of it, you don’t reach a champions league semi final by chance and they will be a threat in the league next year.

Liverpool fans shouldn’t be crying about City, they should be crying about their owners didn’t they have bigger revenues than City recently? Where’s the money going? Straight in their owners pocket and not being invested in the playing side of the operation. If you don’t keep refreshing the squad you and up where the dippers are now, scrapping for 4th place with nothing else to play for.
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So true
Rather than complaining Liverpool and all other clubs should be looking at City and taking note of what they have done.
Invest = success
Investing when you are at the top simply to try and stay there as has been shown that is a must if you want to have any chance in the PL. There is also no real excuse for PL clubs due to the amount of money that they are all making from the TV contract.
I think I heard on the radio some stat (I know, lies , damn lies and statistics) that Juventus earned less from winning Serie A then Norwich got last season for being relegated. That jealousy from abroad is no doubt what drove the disgrace that was/is the ESL.
 
LGWIO said:
So true
Rather than complaining Liverpool and all other clubs should be looking at City and taking note of what they have done.
Invest = success
Investing when you are at the top simply to try and stay there as has been shown that is a must if you want to have any chance in the PL. There is also no real excuse for PL clubs due to the amount of money that they are all making from the TV contract.
I think I heard on the radio some stat (I know, lies , damn lies and statistics) that Juventus earned less from winning Serie A then Norwich got last season for being relegated. That jealousy from abroad is no doubt what drove the disgrace that was/is the ESL.
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Nail on head, we don’t spend beyond our means and reinvest, I’m not saying we’re perfect but some clubs need to look at themselves.
 
andyhinch said:
Nail on head, we don’t spend beyond our means and reinvest, I’m not saying we’re perfect but some clubs need to look at themselves.
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After all the years I have watched the Rags buying any player they wanted whilst at the same time inflating transfer fees, I don’t give a toss what the media and other clubs fans spout.

City fans of my age (born 1946) have finally reached the promised land and I for one am going to enjoy it for all it is worth.
 
Gray said:
After all the years I have watched the Rags buying any player they wanted whilst at the same time inflating transfer fees, I don’t give a toss what the media and other clubs fans spout.

City fans of my age (born 1946) have finally reached the promised land and I for one am going to enjoy it for all it is worth.
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I’m but a youngest didn’t get a season ticket unit 74, cap doff’t but what a ride we’re on
 
LGWIO said:
So true
Rather than complaining Liverpool and all other clubs should be looking at City and taking note of what they have done.
Invest = success
Investing when you are at the top simply to try and stay there as has been shown that is a must if you want to have any chance in the PL. There is also no real excuse for PL clubs due to the amount of money that they are all making from the TV contract.
I think I heard on the radio some stat (I know, lies , damn lies and statistics) that Juventus earned less from winning Serie A then Norwich got last season for being relegated. That jealousy from abroad is no doubt what drove the disgrace that was/is the ESL.
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Well yeah, if you create a league where one team dominates so much that winning it is no longer an achievement, why would you expect to get a lot of money for it?
 
Metalartin said:

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Why are they using Euros for an English club which uses GBP? To show bigger values and leave out the currency symbols in their little poxy lists perhaps? Also, what room has he to talk, conveniently selecting his moaning point at £50m, when one of Liverpool's CB's cost nearly 2 of ours in that list?

"In our history City have never spent close to £80m on one defender Liverpool and United both have, so nerr" Petty cunts.

It's not a good thing that Dejan Lovren is their second most expensive defender either. It shows what happened to them this season, was inevitable and if they don't spend to strengthen the depth of that defence soon, they could continue to go backwards in that area. I'm not sure VVD returning, is a guarantee that those players will return to the level he dragged them to again, after falling so far off the standard for so long.

Anyway lets just add it all together and see what we have, shall we?

Total is £368.19m, for the above mentioned players. We'd have to include Zinchenko, who was not really bought as a defender but he has been part of our defence for years now, cost £1.8m. He's preferred over Mendy who hasn't worked out since his injury in his first season with us 4 years ago - But "Pep just goes out and spends" doesn't he? No, if Pep has quality to work with he can and will make do with what he has.

Total is £369.99m, for one of the best defences in Europe right now. Outside of Mendy, you'd have to say it was good business on all of those signings, can many of those other teams say the same?

Manchester United

Harry Maguire - £78.30m
Victor Lindelöf - £31.50m
Eric Bailly - £34.20m
Luke Shaw - £33.75m
Aaron Wan-Bissaka - £49.50m
Phil Jones - £17.37m
Alex Telles - £13.50m

Total is £258.25m, for a defence which on one of their current squad's best seasons, it has conceded only 4 goals less than Liverpool's without VVD, 2 goals less than Arsenal's, Chelsea have conceded 4 goals less. Also, do they really only have one right back? Not only is the quality of the starting back 4 lower but their cover is lacking too, even compared to other teams. They've been lucky with injuries by the looks of it, maybe that could come back to bite them, like it has City and Liverpool in recent seasons. Personally, I actually think Leicester and Villa probably have better defences than them, with more depth to cover for injuries.

There's no denying City have spent a lot on their defence but they've spent well for the most part. However, what is always overlooked, is the fact that Pep had to correct many mistakes of the previous manager's transfers in that area and that it's harder to find bargains when pressed for time. Side-backs are where you can find your bargains with some patience but not many of the top clubs have found bargains at CB because they seem in short supply(maybe we need to hire Leicester's defender scouts or hack them... "the Liverpool way").

How many managers have had to deal with as much as Pep did when he came to City? 4 side-backs needed replacing at once because of age(bad planning, left City with a lot to do in very little time). Otamendi, he got the best season he's ever given us out of atleast but he quickly declined after that. Kompany couldn't stay fit as much as he used to, nothing Pep could do there. Mangala was Mangala and near impossible to shift off the books . Denayer and Tosin were unproven and nowhere near ready for PL football.

Nobody can say City didn't need to spend again after Kompany left either, it was a mistake not bringing in Dias(or someone like him) sooner if anything. We might not have bought Ake if we had IMO, who was an insurance policy, bought early in the window. In case everyone priced us out, which looked a possibility for a while. We could easily make most of what we paid on Ake back, if we wanted to sell.
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Like I always say WHERE THE FUCK DOES THE MONEY GO AT LIVERPOOL?!

They shouldn’t be boasting about Lovren being their second highest transfer fee for a defender at £20m, when Klopp had heated boardroom fallouts in January over not being given fees he wanted to buy defenders, and when they’ve never finished higher than fourth (8th, 4th, 4th, currently 6th) nor won a single trophy under Klopp without van Dijk.

They’ve earnt £1.45bn in the last three years yet they’re scratching around Preston North End and a bottom of the league German side for shit defenders at Bury New Rd Market prices.

Them listing City transfer fees for defenders when we’ve done it within FFP and when we’ve earnt less money than them shows how we are well run and we invest our money into what this whole thing is about... the football team!

And despite all these decent players we buy, I’m sure our team wage bill is lower than theirs (although our overall club wage bill is higher).
 
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LGWIO said:
So true
Rather than complaining Liverpool and all other clubs should be looking at City and taking note of what they have done.
Invest = success
Investing when you are at the top simply to try and stay there as has been shown that is a must if you want to have any chance in the PL. There is also no real excuse for PL clubs due to the amount of money that they are all making from the TV contract.
I think I heard on the radio some stat (I know, lies , damn lies and statistics) that Juventus earned less from winning Serie A then Norwich got last season for being relegated. That jealousy from abroad is no doubt what drove the disgrace that was/is the ESL.
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One thing that didn’t make sense with the super league is obviously the 6 clubs involved were going to get a lot of money for joining. What did they think would happen with their revenues coming in from the premier league? Did they think they’d still be raking in the same amount of money playing in a premier league that would be deemed pointless with no sporting reward for finishing in the European places?

The 6 owners should be realising the premier league is the money maker. People around the world want to watch it a lot more than the champions league. Protect that and let the rest of Europe bellyache about why the championship play off final is worth a lot more than any competition which can be found in Europe.
 
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