Liverpool thread 2020/21

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Interestingly (well, it is to me at any rate, Mike!) as I’ve previously posted, old PGW was interned for a while at the same Nazi ‘prison’ as Jack Reynolds.. who started his career as a winger with City (didn’t play in the first team, unlike his brother.. apparently Jack faced a bit of competition from some bloke named Meredith..!)

Jack Reynolds went on to be a top class coach. He founded and applied the concept of ‘Total Football’ to Dutch club and national footy between the wars and post-WWII, also guiding people like Vic Buckingham and Rinus Michels after his time. They in turn passed the baton to Van Gaal and Cruyff, who took it to Barcelona and Pep.. and so on and so on..

Maybe PGW and Jack discussed tactics over breakfast at the schloss?! Not so far-fetched to claim Old Plum Wodehouse was a Blue?!
No we have no istree beyond 2008.
 
Deluded

No we dont moan , but your fans are world beaters ,just listen to your tossers on Anfield Wrap and Redmen TV , whinging 24/7 , pathetic , your plastic fans need to grow a pair.

Playing players out of position is a good decision then ? Jack of all trades and master of none springs to mind

Milner is a good example a water carrier who in most games you don't even realise he is playing , he was no more than a squad player for us when he was in his prime, at 36 he's still getting game time for you lot, laughable

2-3 spots open for academy players , Who ? In five years one academy player is first choice, your right back

Shit load of money ? But quite away behind City's sales of academy players in the last 5 years.

Black & White ? Klopp flogged a dozen players to death for three or four seasons at Dortmund and they fell off a cliff , coincidence that your players are now dropping like flies ?

Carry on , the comedic value is priceless , you just regurgitate the crap written in the media , with no facts just the same old bullshit.

I don't listen to the anfield wrap. Redmen. Or whatever you are angry at.

Playing out of position is a necessity sometimes. I seem to remember a team in the English top flight that played their best defensive midfielder as centre back last season.

City has a better squad. And depth. Any way you look at it. It would certainly be possible to upgrade Milner. No argument there. But at the same time it's pretty nice to have a player that can do a decent job as left back, right back and midfield. Sometimes you have to settle with what you've got.

I'm talking about a spot in the squad, btw. I'm not even interested in convincing anyone if it has been a success. I'm just pointing out the way Klopp feels about filling the squad. He rather have Jones, Elliot or Williams in the squad then have two or three proven, first team backups.

I am a Dortmund fan. I don't read English media. But I'm sure you can give me lots of insight and "facts" about the Dortmund Klopp era.
 
I don't listen to the anfield wrap. Redmen. Or whatever you are angry at.

Playing out of position is a necessity sometimes. I seem to remember a team in the English top flight that played their best defensive midfielder as centre back last season.

City has a better squad. And depth. Any way you look at it. It would certainly be possible to upgrade Milner. No argument there. But at the same time it's pretty nice to have a player that can do a decent job as left back, right back and midfield. Sometimes you have to settle with what you've got.

I'm talking about a spot in the squad, btw. I'm not even interested in convincing anyone if it has been a success. I'm just pointing out the way Klopp feels about filling the squad. He rather have Jones, Elliot or Williams in the squad then have two or three proven, first team backups.

I am a Dortmund fan. I don't read English media. But I'm sure you can give me lots of insight and "facts" about the Dortmund Klopp era.
More garbage

Fernandinho did play centre back but far less effective than his true position , so playing players out of position doesnt work

Milner does not do a decent job anymore , and if you really think so , you need to change your red tinted glasses , he's finished , over the hill

Jones , Elliot and Williams will go the same way as Ibe ,Brewster and the soon to depart Origi ,none of them have shown they are good enough , because they are never picked to play

If you think i am going to waste my time trawling the internet to placate a Dortmund pseudo Liverpool fan then your mistaken , you and your club are not that interesting.

Anger certainly not , just tired of ill informed Liverpool fans coming on here with the same old tripe
 
City has a better squad. And depth. Any way you look at it.
I don’t actually think this is true any more tbh. Liverpool fans like to perpetuate it though as it makes them look like plucky underdogs, and paints Klopp in an even greater light. The reality is they have a bigger wage bill than us, and their squad was recently valued higher than ours.
 
Very true.. and The Red Filth over the road have been just as bad down the recent years.

From being a kid first attending Maine Road I remember how City fans at either end of the ground would always applaud opposition goalkeepers as they made their way into the penalty area. This was especially so of Gordon Banks and also Everton’s Gordon West. The same happened all over the country. I think part of the reason was that everyone identified with the crazy gang that was the ‘Goalkeeper’s Union’.. you had to admire anyone who was barmpot enough to join that particular club! You’d get the occasional catcalls from kids near the front or a few bog-rolls being lobbed but, by and large, most goalkeepers were treated with respect.

The first time I ever witnessed poor behaviour to a ’keeper was in early 1973 when at OT for the game against Everton. I think that was the game Lou Macari made his debut for them. I was only there because as a student, I’d travelled back to Manchester to play against Manchester University and one of my teammates, who was the brother of Mick Lyons of Everton, had got us all tickets to go to the game that night.

On running towards the Stretford End, Everton’s ‘keeper David Lawson was met by the whole stand applauding him, as I said above in common with how crowds reacted to opposition goalkeepers. As soon as he raised an arm in acknowledgement, cue 10000 ‘v-signs’ and a chorus of ‘Who the f-ing hell are you?’ and belly-laughter all round from the United contingent.. (bit like P G Wodehouse’s phrase that ‘Aunt Augusta’s laugh was so loud, had there been an aisle available, it would have rolled in it..’)

From then on it was a slippery slope, I’m afraid..!
Youve dislodged a few memory cells. A long time ago Gordon West was a big name as the goalie for Everton a bigger team than Liverpool who might even have been in Div 2. So there was a touch of glamour about Everton and Gordon coming to Maine Road.
City got a free kick just inside the Everton half in front of the scoreboard end. Step forward Bill Leivers, now City's second oldest surviving player, hard as nails but a gentle Sunday School teacher.
He took a shot from about 50 yards at Gordon West. He didn't score but the crowd was still buzzing as City got another free kick in almost the same place. This time the crowd were expectant but there was no goal despite another rocket shot.
My memory is fading as l recall one shot being brilliantly saved by West and the other beating him all ends up but hitting the bar yet l can't remember which came first. My memories might be wrong but the drama of the duel between goalie and ex-coal miner remains. Perhaps someone else will remember better.
Longsight M13 might not remember Leivers but l daresay he knows the little church on Beresford Road but not that a City captain used to preach there.
 
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