Liverpool thread 2020/21

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Greggery Peccary said:
By your logic here, every single position on the pitch should be immediately interchangeable for each member of the squad. If you think that footballers can just adapt to new positions with different needs and skill sets just because they’re first teamers, I’d say it might be a little sinking in that’s needed at your side. If football was as fluid and linear as that, everybody could be a manager. But do you even realise the difference between playing centre mid and centre half? They’re the two hardest positions on the pitch to play and whilst they’re often close to each other, their roles are markedly different. To expect seamless transition at this level is madness.
I’d have replied earlier but I’ve been up the wall with work.
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Nobody is expecting a seamless transition and there's no shame in losing to a team like us when you've got key injuries. But it's been half a season since Van Dijk got injured and you'd think they'd be able to cope well enough to beat the likes of Burnley and Brighton at home.

When we won the league with 100 points, we had Delph at left back for the entire season. Almost every time we've won the title, Vincent Kompany has been out for a significant part of the season. When we won with 98 points, KDB missed most of the season. Aguero rarely plays more than two-thirds of any season because of injury problems. This season we've been without any striker for significant parts, and without our best striker for basically the whole season.

What you're experiencing now is a normal season for us in terms of injuries. And you're lucky enough to be getting it in a season where because of covid, all of your opponents have shitloads of injury problems too. Liverpool haven't been able to cope with the injury crisis because, like everyone has said for two or three years now, you've got an unbalanced squad that's over-reliant on the first eleven, which is why you do your best to get knocked out of the cups every year.

Against us, you had your two best central midfielders at centre back (despite having two young CBs on the bench), and yet you were still able to field three midfielders in their correct positions and have a further three decent quality midfielders on the bench and still had a £50m-odd midfielder that didn't feature at all. So it's a bit rich to say, as I've heard a lot of scouse fans claim, that moving Henderson and Fabinho back screws over your midfield. Certainly having that many midfielders on the books has prevented you from buying enough defenders to cover. Last season, Matip made just 9 appearances in the league due to injury, and Lovren left the club. So Van Dijk and Gomez were the only reliable options. Despite that, Klopp thought that a better use of money was to spunk £20m on yet another central midfielder and go into the season with 3 senior CBs, one of whom was coming back from injury.

We did the same last season. We went into the season knowing we were light in defence, and it backfired. This season we have four good quality centre-backs, but we are also able to change things up and play three at the back. Most of our players can also play multiple positions, which helps, but is not an accident. We've specifically chosen players that can do that.

Honestly, to everyone on this site, we're just surprised it's taken this long for your lack of proper squad depth to catch up with you, because we've all be amazed at the incredible luck you've had for the past three years to basically have your strongest team available more often than not.
 
aguero93:20 said:
The answer will never come, he's already gone past stage 4 and accused me of something done by another
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He's a dipper mate, it's what they do..!


He is right on one thing though, if we hadn't scored 3 of our 4 goals, it would most probably have been a draw which therefore would have been a tight game with nothing in it like he keeps gobbing off about..!

And to think, he's only on here because he wants to 'chat' football..


Chat complete bollocks more like..!
 
Have lived on south coast mainly since the mid 80s and apart from the London clubs almost every place has the token rag or kopite. Usually to be found gloating by the bar as they watch their usual bbc/sky love in.
The kopite normally insists on being called scouse, has a 77 retro kit on and has never been the ground citing the usual reasons- hard to get a ticket, worlds greatest club lar.
The rags are usually the same. Funniest thing I saw was Chelsea and Liverpool fans fighting during a CL semi final in a pub in Sussex. Why none of them were at the stadium was baffling. But this is the reality of the gloryhunters. Most neutrals I meet have no affiliation with either and it's the smaller towns where they might support a second team.
 
Here in East Yorkshire, it's quite easy to spot the glory hunter.

The back window of their car will have either a Hull FC or a Hull KR sticker in one corner, and a United or Liverpool sticker in the other corner.

"Aah right..." I always sarcastically comment to my missus or sons, "happy to support a local rugby team because they deem them to be good enough, but that's where local pride ends because they want to attach themselves to a bit of success."
 
I'm With Stupid said:
It's not just the most supported though, it's the type of people who support them. Man Utd and previously Liverpool are magnets for glory supporters, who are the worst kind of fans. The sort of people who are giving it billy big bollocks when they're winning, but are suddenly nowhere to be found when they're not doing so well. The number of Liverpool fans who have recently reemerged after "not really being into football" for about 10 years was incredible. And because they only started supporting them in the first place because they were the best team, they feel like they've got some sort of divine right to always win things. Most people outside of Manchester grew up knowing one or two City fans, if any. But go to any small town with a shit football team and 90% of the wankers in the town are Man Utd fans if they're my age, and Liverpool fans if they're my dad's age. The type of people who walk into the pub on a Sunday clearly not knowing that their team is playing and then pretend to give a shit when they notice the score shows they're winning.

No doubt it'll change if we keep winning and attract more glory supporters, but most City fans at the moment are still of an age where they can remember being in the third tier not knowing if their club would survive. Nobody who's not currently a kid is supporting City because they are the best team.
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Absolutely spot on. Plastic armchair pub fans are very vocal when things are going well, constant "we" and "us" references despite usually never going to a game., Also tend to peddle that we have "no history" , but knowing very little of their chosen clubs history, especially some of the murkier episodes.
I grew up in the 70s and 80s when Liverpool were dominant. There were always a few at school who latched on to "support" Liverpool due to their success at that time, sad glory hunters.
 
True story this. Years ago a young couple moved into the house next door. He was the archetypal rag: club shirt (about 4 of them), hats, scarves, bath towels, you name it, all with the rag emblem on them. He'd stand out in his back garden at barbecues and such giving it large to his mates over how great the vermin were, striding about like an SS officer joking about how crap City were, etc. Oh, such laughs.

One day I heard him out in his back garden talking to someone and I glanced over to see his wife was putting a load of Chelsea shirts on the line. This plastic fucker, I swear to god, was boasting to one of his mates: "Yeah, we've just bought Wright-Phillips off Man City so we're deffo gonna win the league this year." The çunt had quite literally overnight decided to ditch the rags and become a Chelsea fan!

As I say it was a long time ago (obviously, if the chavs had just bought Sweep) but it gives you an idea of just how shallow these plastic fuckers really are.
 
Not sure if it's the same with the fake rags but I also find the mindset of the kopite gloryhunters even more rabid than the scousers I know. It's almost like they have to prove they are a fan more.
The weirdness of watching united fans call city fans manc cnuts at Derby games is bizarre but I guess their affiliation with the city is non existent.
 
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