Lovebitesandeveryfing
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Mate, I don't describe people as scum or murderers (apart from Putin's crew in Ukraine at present). You and I are reasonable guys, I think, although I don't know you.
I was in a train out of Lime Street full of City fans after a match. O.k., this was in the seventies. As we passed under a bridge shortly after leaving the station, a bunch of them hurled breeze blocks down on to the roof of the train. Think about it — it means they'd organised themselves, they'd thought about this in advance, they knew the schedule, they were there and waiting. The breeze blocks thundered onto the roofs of the carriages. But no-one, so far as I know, was seriously hurt.
I encountered hooliganism during that period, for sure, and had a bit of argy-bargy with United fans. Nothing too serious (I know others on here had very bad experiences with rags, not judging). But I don't remember anything remotely like that happening at any away match I went to. Nor have I seen it more recently at away grounds. Was at Chelsea two or three years back and one of the stewards directing us said to us “The queue for the champions' supporters is this way.” Wasn't arse licking, just being respectful. Can you for one second imagine that happening at Anfield? Even from a steward?
A breeze block hurled from a bridge on to someone's cranium would kill them outright — no sweat.
Sure, it's a long time ago. But they do this. They've got previous. Do I need to remind the world of Heysel? Then, more recently, bricking our supporters coach as it came into the car park at Anfield. Then, even more recently, trashing our team coach. They do this. They've got previous. All with a quite unique sanctimoniousness about how they're God's chosen ones (and by implication, are absolved of anything they might get up to). Always the victims; never their fault. Because at Anfield of course, “it means more”…
The team? Liverpool teams since the sixties have often been terrific. The Tommy Smith team, the Joey Jones team, the John Barnes team, I could go on. Great managers: Shankly is a personal hero of mine, had a lot of respect for Paisley, and no, I don't hate Klopp at all. I find him quite likeable, although I could do with a bit less of the amateur theatricals, fist pumping in front of the Kop and all the rest of it. If we didn't have Pep, I'd willingly have Klopp. This current team is a terrific team. Nearly as good as us. Perhaps as good. We'll see in the years to come.
No problem with any of that. It's their club, with its bloody song (which was originally sung by Johnny Mathis, by the way, and was sung by several other clubs, before it somehow mysteriously became their property, presumably because of Gerry and the Fuckwits). Above all, it's their supporters.
You will also have noticed something else, as the founder of this forum. Liverpool supporters, when they venture on here, come on here giving it the big one. Not all, but it's a recurrent phenomenon. I notice it, because nobody else whatsoever does it. One came on here offering violence to posters. I remember it clearly. Of course, it's nonsense: it's so easy to be a keyboard warrior. But it's the principle of it. I'm registered at two or three other forums. KUMB, Arsenal Mania, Griffin Park. I don't often go on there (usually, it's when they're playing United, to encourage them to do them), but when I do, I'm scrupulously respectful. For me, I'm in someone else's house. I would no more think of slagging them off than I would think of criticising the neighbour's choice of furniture if he invited me in for a cup of tea. Not arse licking – just respectful. It's the way I was brought up.
Anyway, just my point of view, for what it's worth, and my attempt to explain some of the bile on here towards them which, I admit, is sometimes over the top.
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