Check the facts you say.I travelled away a lot during the 70's and to be honest City and Utd were not good places to got to, neither were Newcastle many other or my personal dislike Leeds. You seem to see the train incident as the worse thing that happened at this time caused by us, eg Blackpool fan stabbed to death in 1974, Leeds rioting after 1975 EC Final in Paris, they were banned, 1978 full scale riot in and outside stadium at Milwall etc etc I could go on. Also you have got YNWA wrong, name the teams, usually Celtic. As for bricking your coach, unexcusable, but check Youtube to see City supporters doing something maybe not as bad but similar. My point on here is simple, Liverpool and Manchester are very similar, same levels of crime, drug use, unemployment etc, just check the facts. We can argue about teams, City cannot be faulted and KDB is an amazing player, but in my opinion before Heysel we were never looked on as one of the violent set of supporters. The internet has allowed people to vent about things they know little about and most Liverpool, City etc etc supporters are more or less the same, this is my view, which is not welcome here but there you go.
1. We have never killed our own nor fans of our opponents and blamed others
2. We have never trashed an opponent's coach to the extent it was a write off
3. We have never chucked flares onto disabled away fans
4. We have never worn t-shirts supporting a racist
5. We have never booed a member of royalty nor the national anthem of the UK
6. We have never had our own supporters filmed masturbating in fountains
7. We have never gone on twitter and proudly boasted about robbing service stations
8. We have never dropped a lump of concrete on a Bulgarian waiter and then denied all knowledge of it
Do you want any more facts or is this enough to be going on with