Liverpool Thread - 2021/22

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gordondaviesmoustache said:
Both were avoidable tragedies but (imo) with very different root causes. One their supporters demonstrably caused, the other they didn’t. The ticketless fans line is as much of a red herring as the crumbling stadium one. Lies propagated by the people that caused each tragedy to deflect blame.

They should own their mistakes, to the same extent as they want others to own theirs.
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That doesn’t fit the hypocritical victim **** mentality instilled with every signup to ltv
 
cheekybids said:
It’s interesting isn’t it, the examples used to say why the state of the stadia caused it “chicken wire” separating fans. So when I go & watch wallabies v England at Optus stadium in Perth which has no segregation I’ll be taking my life in my own hands. No I’ve just realised we’ll be safe because there are proper turnstiles so that won’t cause ticketless fans to get sucked in.
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The more I think about it the more absurd the argument around the state of the stadium gets. Was it possessed by some evil force that turned Liverpool fans from simple, cheeky looters into weapon deploying pugilists as soon as they entered the stadium? Or were the concrete missiles propelled towards the Juventus fans by a poltergeist that lived in the stadium? Or were the Italian fans collectively taken by a malign spirit that lived in the stands that made them believe they were being attacked by an unseen presence they had to move away from?

Bad stadium. Clear intent to cause the tragedy. They should have tried and executed the Heysel Stadium, just like they did that monkey in Hartlepool.

So when you think about it, Liverpool/Chelsea fans are the real victims here.
 
What’s with the joke about Chelsea fans causing the issues? Where did that originate from?
Sorry, if I’m slow on the uptake!
 
BridgyDids said:
What’s with the joke about Chelsea fans causing the issues? Where did that originate from?
Sorry, if I’m slow on the uptake!
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John Smith (then chairman) and Peter Robinson (then club secretary) - albeit less directly - along with many attendees on the day tried to blame Chelsea fans for causing the tragedy, apparently because there were some non-scouse accents in the Liverpool end. Who knew?

Some have tried to blame it on (that well known and widespread cohort) Belgian skinheads.

It‘s quite possibly the genesis and holy grail of ‘it wasn’t our fault‘ rolled into one. It’s actually like something out of a Mitchell and Webb sketch it’s that preposterous.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
The more I think about it the more absurd the argument around the state of the stadium gets. Was it possessed by some evil force that turned Liverpool fans from simple, cheeky looters into weapon deploying pugilists as soon as they entered the stadium? Or were the concrete missiles propelled towards the Juventus fans by a poltergeist that lived in the stadium? Or were the Italian fans collectively taken by a malign spirit that lived in the stands that made them believe they were being attacked by an unseen presence they had to move away from?

Bad stadium. Clear intent to cause the tragedy. They should have tried and executed the Heysel Stadium, just like they did that monkey in Hartlepool.

So when you think about it, Liverpool/Chelsea fans are the real victims here.
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Truth was they went for revenge against the Italians that attacked them years before, which was no doubt revenge for the scouse cunts looting & pillaging kappa & Sergio tachini trackies.

never any responsibility for their actions.
 
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