I have only witnessed one street robbery in my life and it was on that walk back to Lime St. Several scrotes stole a watch off a lad who had obvious learning difficulties. The wife and l offered to take him home but a Liverpool couple knew where he lived and they kindly took him. Otherwise no interest or help from loads of dippers. Nothing changes.Change the date to sometime in the 1970's or 80's and the station Lime St. Omit mobile phones and you've got an old school away day to Merseyside
How many fans walk alone in a potentially dangerous area anyway? Especially as he makes out that lots of lone individuals were attacked. I don't believe Beglin Fils anymore than some of the things said in commentary by Beglin Pere.When I read things like "Groups of three or four attackers would jump lone Liverpool fans" and "It was like a post-apocalyptic, lawless hell. Everywhere we looked, people were being mugged and there wasn’t a police officer in sight", I have to ask myself why the Liverpool fans didn't stay together when they left the stadium. If they had done, they would have far outnumbered the gangs, and averted trouble.
Nobody doubts that there was trouble at the ground, before and after the game. Nobody doubts that the majority of Liverpool fans are law-abiding citizens, and did not go looking for trouble. Nobody doubts that UEFA and the French police made mistakes with the organisation of the event.
What most other fans object to though, is the outright denial of any wrongdoing by Liverpool fans, fully backed by the British media. There is stacks of evidence of Liverpool fans buying and selling forged tickets. There is video evidence of fans climbing fences to gain entry (only in the Liverpool section though). There is evidence of Liverpool fans forging press passes and gaining entry. And there is Klopp encouraging fans to go even if they don't have tickets.
With Liverpool's history of trouble at football games, you would think the club would take a more responsible approach. After Hillsborough, you would think the fans would avoid the possibility of overcrowding due to illegal ticketing. But no - a minority of Liverpool fans continue to behave like lawless hooligans.
And how can you ask us to forget the rivalry between the clubs, when Liverpool fans destroyed our team bus before an important game, and their complicit police fail to bring one person to justice for causing criminal damage?
Ask him if knows anyone at Wembley and how many fakes / jibbers got in against us in the semi. Senior steward I spoke to in our end said they were the worse set of fans to visit the place and that's some doing given that Millwall have been there. He knew there end was overcrowded but there was nothing he could do other than include it in a report which I doubted he would do. City should tell Liverpool next season and make it known to the public that due to fake tickets security issues and overcrowding in their end that their allocation has been reduced to just the bottom two tiers for three seasons with two of them suspended for five years. Once their fans learn the laws of the land then they can have their full allocation but until then the majority suffer. Maybe then they may start taking responsibility but until someone does something they will carry on in the same way and when another incident does happen they will become all sanctimonious again and blame someone else.Feel free to share this with anyone of your choosing...
Have a security contact who told me BEFORE the Champions League final there had been major problems before our game against Liverpool at the Etihad.
Scores of high quality counterfeit tickets for their end which resulted in confiscations and fans missing the start.
Uefa could do a lot worse than ask City for their observations that day.
Do recall seeing empty seats in their end as the match started and bring surprised they hadn't sold it out.
Just recovered from 'a moment' over here in Lanzarote.
I always say I can't hear this lots fans talk as it's Dolphin speak.
Anyway outside the bar walking by was a dad & son combo both in full kit wanker mode.
Dad "Look a Dolphin"
Son " Dolphin? Dolphin? Where?
Dad (pointing out to sea) Dolphin there
Son "Dolphin? Dolphin where dad....dad dad Dolphin (when he sees it)
Even Mrs Moon was pissing herself.
Maybe you had to be here but thought it was worth sharing.
Looks like someone is running an extremely successful and potentially dangerous business turning out fakes for high profile games and probably not just for them. Maybe when the turnstiles register the correct number of fans that have passed through the turnstiles then they are locked and nobody else is allowed in. Those with genuine tickets would soon start to get pissed off. Then all fans inside the ground can have their tickets checked and arrested. Would take a huge effort but even if the message gets out there that this is what is going to happen it might make them think twice. City should incorporate some new security in the tickets for next year just for the Liverpool game and only send the tickets to them a week before the game or even better, they must be picked up in person.The City security official said they were some of the best fake tickets they had ever come across in all his time.
Yep, sounds like somewhere on Merseyslide is churning them out at high quality.Looks like someone is running an extremely successful and potentially dangerous business turning out fakes for high profile games and probably not just for them. Maybe when the turnstiles register the correct number of fans that have passed through the turnstiles then they are locked and nobody else is allowed in. Those with genuine tickets would soon start to get pissed off. Then all fans inside the ground can have their tickets checked and arrested. Would take a huge effort but even if the message gets out there that this is what is going to happen it might make them think twice. City should incorporate some new security in the tickets for next year just for the Liverpool game and only send the tickets to them a week before the game or even better, they must be picked up in person.
At the risk of being a bit pedantic, they are actually thieving, lying, cheating fucking wankers. And they are being protected by people/peoples in high places.I don’t think it’s been said enough on the last few pages;
Wankers.
We should be sending them the info without being asked :)Feel free to share this with anyone of your choosing...
Have a security contact who told me BEFORE the Champions League final there had been major problems before our game against Liverpool at the Etihad.
Scores of high quality counterfeit tickets for their end which resulted in confiscations and fans missing the start.
Uefa could do a lot worse than ask City for their observations that day.