It's the same with Dortmund fans in Germany, smug and always the victims.I think what I find weird about Liverpool and United fans is their entitlement.. they call city fans "plastic" but all of their fans I know personally are from other parts of bloody England.. I know a Liverpool fan from Plymouth and a united fan from bloody West Ham, they follow them because they are who won when they were growing up.. can you get any more plastic than that? Hahaha