Liverpool Thread - 2021/22

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Well another match day over and its , as you were.
Reading the last few pages and going through the media again I must confess to agreeing with many about the general content and tone of comments regarding this title run in. However, I got to wondering why this was.

Contrary to the general tone on here, which if i was trying to be a WUMMER, I would suggest was almost playing the LiVARpool victim card, I dont actually think it is a bias in the media. I think it is the bigger thing of a media that no longer simply reports the news, but instead tries to make it and direct it.

It is almost asif the whole media has become like Talksport, say something controversial to get a response, big up another club or manager, highlight quotes simply to create more angst , rivalry and general dislike/hate........... Click bait ahoy!....... and sell more content, advertising space and get more callers tpo justify their existence.

Yes, this existed on a smaller scale throughout the years but looking back I wondered if it started with Ferguson and was then amplified by the beats that has become the Premier league. Fergie started the needle, the "mind games" and then along came the likes of Wenger, Dalglish, Mourinho etc to bring about these rivalries (shades of Clough/Revie, which the media lapped up and perhaps shaped the way things have now become).

The fact is City have been ahead everyone else for the last 10years or so with the odd blip. The media and the premier league dont want that and so will do their utmost to big up anyone to create a story. Going on about us being the best team , best defenders etc, there is a case of boosting morale of the players but it doesnt cover the fact that you lot have won a damn sight more and it is for us to challenge and push you. This whole quad thing is the perfect example. City are champions, they are top of the league by a point and the title is in your hands. You are in the ECL semi and have a great chance to reach consecutive finals. Simply reporting that is safe and does nothing to create the rivalry and antagonism.

In the words of Mike Skinner
"Geezers need excitement
If their lives don't provide them this, they incite violence
Common sense, simple common sense"

Personally I take pleasure in the simple excitement of the run in being so close and whatever way it goes it will have been another great season, perhaps not as wonderful for me if it stays as it is...but a damn sight more exciting than it looked in January.

Yesterday then,2 quick questions.

Was Milner's err tackle or lunge,free kick or not ?

Mane catching the keeper high (yet again) should of been punished or unpunished ?

The responses you give will be interesting reading,and may decide posters on here to interact with you in the future
 
As someone mentioned recently in this thread:
Currently, the worlds greatest manager, with the worlds best goalkeeper, defenders, midfielders and attackers, with the noisiest loyal most knowledgeable fans, is at year 6 of his tenure.
This greatest team ever, has currently won in its 6 year existence
1x LC
1x PL
1x CL

I’ll not compare to another club and it’s managers achievements in 5 years, because that’s clearly outrageous, and demeaning to this Liverpool teams dynasty of success.

so I’ll pick the forgotten manager of Liverpool, of 2 years - ending (pre-planned) in Heysel, Joe Fagan.

now, this tinpot manager, was clearly crap, as his 2 year record (all won in 1 year) shows
1 x LC
1 x PL equivalent
1 x CL equivalent

so remember, currently, the greatest manager and team ever, ever, is averaging a trophy every 2 years, and far surpasses the single year equivalent achievement of Joe Fagan’s bunch of fakes…
Yep, this is the one for me and will be used well in the next few weeks.
" Do your history homework lads, Joe Fagan won more in a year than Klopp in six"
Dynasty my arse.
Thanks JASR for that one.
 
Yesterday then,2 quick questions.

Was Milner's err tackle or lunge,free kick or not ?

Mane catching the keeper high (yet again) should of been punished or unpunished ?

The responses you give will be interesting reading,and may decide posters on here to interact with you in the future
Milners was not a tackle as I saw it. He "lunged" in and won the ball after getting there first. The Newcastle player got there second and clearly kicks Milners foot/ankle injuring himself in the process...well thats how i saw it. No foul, nothing to see and therefore no question of it beign chalked off.

As for Mane, I actually think he got lucky. First watch, I thought nothing of it, second watch clear foul on keeper, third watch actually thought it looked abit naughty and perhaps deliberate. Thought it was fair game to go for but then perhaps could and should have pulled out.
 
Milners was not a tackle as I saw it. He "lunged" in and won the ball after getting there first. The Newcastle player got there second and clearly kicks Milners foot/ankle injuring himself in the process...well thats how i saw it. No foul, nothing to see and therefore no question of it beign chalked off.

As for Mane, I actually think he got lucky. First watch, I thought nothing of it, second watch clear foul on keeper, third watch actually thought it looked abit naughty and perhaps deliberate. Thought it was fair game to go for but then perhaps could and should have pulled out.
Yeah, that’s pretty much how I saw it. Milner’s wasn’t a foul but Mane was lucky not to see red for that.
 
Milners was not a tackle as I saw it. He "lunged" in and won the ball after getting there first. The Newcastle player got there second and clearly kicks Milners foot/ankle injuring himself in the process...well thats how i saw it. No foul, nothing to see and therefore no question of it beign chalked off.

As for Mane, I actually think he got lucky. First watch, I thought nothing of it, second watch clear foul on keeper, third watch actually thought it looked abit naughty and perhaps deliberate. Thought it was fair game to go for but then perhaps could and should have pulled out.

Fair enough -you’re first answer was what I expected you to say,I can’t call it really,but it led to the goal which to me causes a few mins of controversy

And you’re answer to the Mane challenge was what I expected you to say as well really,as there was no action taken and it didn’t lead to a goal or anything like that.

So to summarise no Milner foul,and Mane was deliberate,but that can give you a wry smile as he wasn’t punished,yet again.

Thanks for your response
 
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