Liverpool Thread - 2022/23

[Hayley Croppers chopper]

Yes anyone better than FSG right now, we made record profits yet we are outspent by teams like Aston Villa ffs. Chelsea spent what we spent in 6 years in just 6 months. Our club need 250 million investment min since we need a whole midfield and we have so many players that are either finished or too old that need replacing. We need 3 starter midfielders with another CB.

You could try spending some of that Coutinho money.

 

[FightLikeAGirl]

There is no such thing as deserving in football. Once Preston North End were a big club. Oldham were in the PL in the ‘90s and so were Swindon. Forest were massive under Clough. Sheffield Wednesday could go toe to toe with Arsenal and Liverpool in the ‘90s. Everyone makes a big hooha about our last trophy win being in 1995, it’s Liverpool fans’ one joke, but Newcastle last won a trophy when man hadn’t set foot on the moon. Things change.

 

[Wretched Vengeance]

The size of a club doesn’t make any difference to anything, it doesn’t even mean anything. There’s no such thing as the word ‘should’ in English football either.

Sheffield Wednesday, Sunderland, Leeds and City have all had years in the third tier… I wouldn’t even call those dark days because there are hardcore fans of clubs divisions below that who turn up week-in-week-out who would dream of their club getting up to that division. Whether the expectations of Weds Sund Leeds and City fans are way beyond the fans of clubs who could only dream of being in the third tier are neither here nor there.

League 1 Sheffield Wednesday are traditionally a bigger club than Fulham, Brentford and Brighton who are in the top half of the Premier League. But if they have any fans saying ‘Wednesday should be up where those clubs are, we’re a bigger club than all of them’, they’d be wrong. All clubs are where they deserve to be and are there for a reason (how they’re run; on or off the pitch or both).

Liverpool are currently 8th. Liverpool’s average finishing position in the all-time English league system is 8.1. You said Top 4 should be a minimum, but even in the Premier League era Liverpool’s average finishing position is 4.33.

Liverpool spent eight seasons in the Second Division not all that long before they won four European Cups in eight seasons. Which eight seasons are most representative of Liverpool? I’d argue neither, they were just two sets of eight seasons of Liverpool at their extremes and the reality is neither of them are truly what Liverpool are. The realities are more likely to be the averages, for all clubs.

It’s the average 8.1 finishing position that is what Liverpool are more than they are the team that spent eight seasons in a row in the Second Division or that won four European Cups in eight seasons.

In Liverpool’s 130 years, they’ve had 40 years where they’ve won at least one trophy but 90 years where they’ve won nothing. So it’s far more likely and more common that, even one of the most decorated clubs in England wins absolutely nothing and finishes 8th than it is they win something or even finish in the Top 4.

What gets on everyone’s nerves about Liverpool fans is this ‘should’ mentality. ‘Liverpool “should” be challenging because they’re a big club’… it means nothing.

Shoulda woulda coulda and a lorra lorra laughs. English football is competitive, no team has really won that many league titles, 19 and 20 are very low numbers for a top league’s most league title winners (English football has had 96 years where neither Liverpool or United has won the league, that dwarves even Liverpool and United’s league titles combined), no team’s average finishing position is higher than that 8.1 of Liverpool’s, and that’s all because in English football there’s no such thing as ‘should’.

 

[RadcliffeRick]

You are the biggest in the following:
1. Jibbing in grounds
2. Blaming others for your own fans piss poor behaviour
3. Throwing missiles at opposition fans causing injury
4. Wrecking coaches
5. Murdering fans of the opposition
6. Hounding people out of their jobs for speaking the truth
7. Having a main sponsor, a bank, that has been fined record amounts for money laundering and assisting terrorism

There is more but I trust you get the gist.

A bit harsh when none of these was their fault!

 

[ninjamonkey]

Despite the fact the man with the most boring voice in the world had to tell Liverpool fans over the tannoy as the game was happening no less than 4 times to stop singing homophobic chants, Merseyside police arrested a solitary person in the ground.

that's a lot of noise generated by that one single person. Wonder if it was the same person who was having a whip round for the coach driver and accidentally dropped a cup full of coins onto a 15 year old girls head and whether the same solitary person was the one responsible for throwing coins at Pep and spitting at his backroom staff, and smashing coach windows nd pushing old people into fountains and being the only person to jib in at the champions league final. Got a lot to answer for this guy.

 

[Kippax77]

Despite the fact the man with the most boring voice in the world had to tell Liverpool fans over the tannoy as the game was happening no less than 4 times to stop singing homophobic chants, Merseyside police arrested a solitary person in the ground.

that's a lot of noise generated by that one single person. Wonder if it was the same person who was having a whip round for the coach driver and accidentally dropped a cup full of coins onto a 15 year old girls head and whether the same solitary person was the one responsible for throwing coins at Pep and spitting at his backroom staff, and smashing coach windows nd pushing old people into fountains and being the only person to jib in at the champions league final. Got a lot to answer for this guy.

I think the boring voiced tannoy trick was just to scare monger the Chelsea players into thinking something really serious was going on thus dropping their guard and letting Liverpool sneak up the pitch and score.
Nice try boring voice man

 

[aminegriffy1]

So why are the current owners selling up if it's such a good gig?

Because our owners want to buy an NBA team

 

[jamesha]

The size of a club doesn’t make any difference to anything, it doesn’t even mean anything. There’s no such thing as the word ‘should’ in English football either.

Sheffield Wednesday, Sunderland, Leeds and City have all had years in the third tier… I wouldn’t even call those dark days because there are hardcore fans of clubs divisions below that who turn up week-in-week-out who would dream of their club getting up to that division. Whether the expectations of Weds Sund Leeds and City fans are way beyond the fans of clubs who could only dream of being in the third tier are neither here nor there.

League 1 Sheffield Wednesday are traditionally a bigger club than Fulham, Brentford and Brighton who are in the top half of the Premier League. But if they have any fans saying ‘Wednesday should be up where those clubs are, we’re a bigger club than all of them’, they’d be wrong. All clubs are where they deserve to be and are there for a reason (how they’re run; on or off the pitch or both).

Liverpool are currently 8th. Liverpool’s average finishing position in the all-time English league system is 8.1. You said Top 4 should be a minimum, but even in the Premier League era Liverpool’s average finishing position is 4.33.

Liverpool spent eight seasons in the Second Division not all that long before they won four European Cups in eight seasons. Which eight seasons are most representative of Liverpool? I’d argue neither, they were just two sets of eight seasons of Liverpool at their extremes and the reality is neither of them are truly what Liverpool are. The realities are more likely to be the averages, for all clubs.

It’s the average 8.1 finishing position that is what Liverpool are more than they are the team that spent eight seasons in a row in the Second Division or that won four European Cups in eight seasons.

In Liverpool’s 130 years, they’ve had 40 years where they’ve won at least one trophy but 90 years where they’ve won nothing. So it’s far more likely and more common that, even one of the most decorated clubs in England wins absolutely nothing and finishes 8th than it is they win something or even finish in the Top 4.

What gets on everyone’s nerves about Liverpool fans is this ‘should’ mentality. ‘Liverpool “should” be challenging because they’re a big club’… it means nothing.

Shoulda woulda coulda and a lorra lorra laughs. English football is competitive, no team has really won that many league titles, 19 and 20 are very low numbers for a top league’s most league title winners (English football has had 96 years where neither Liverpool or United has won the league, that dwarves even Liverpool and United’s league titles combined), no team’s average finishing position is higher than that 8.1 of Liverpool’s, and that’s all because in English football there’s no such thing as ‘should’.

Great post but dipper fans takeaway will be that they are the net position champions and they will want a trophy for it!

 

[aminegriffy1]

I got banned from RAWK for saying that comments that comments targeting only City/Newcastle whilst ignoring Chelsea who seem to be playing football manager and buying everyone on sight could be seen as xenophobic, and I got abuse, hate and been bullied for days, plus I was accused of being an undercover City fan. Doesn't help that I'm British Arab and it hurts so bad seeing my fellow fans stereotype us like this, like we going to throw every LGBTQ Liverpool fan of the tallest stand in Anfield and we are all government owned who are going to require all female Liverpool staff to wear hijab and impose sharia law in Liverpool.

I'm not saying that Qatar and the middle east are immune from criticism, they deserve to be called out on issues like migrant rights, but I feel like there is a widespread stereotyping like we are all some savages and it's not a nice thing to read especially from our fans who claim to be socialist and left wing. The comments I've seen posted it about us were straight comments you'd see on a Nigel Farage show in GB News.

 

[wolviedinho]

I got banned from RAWK for saying that comments that comments targeting only City/Newcastle whilst ignoring Chelsea who seem to be playing football manager and buying everyone on sight could be seen as xenophobic, and I got abuse, hate and been bullied for days, plus I was accused of being an undercover City fan. Doesn't help that I'm British Arab and it hurts so bad seeing my fellow fans stereotype us like this, like we going to throw every LGBTQ Liverpool fan of the tallest stand in Anfield and we are all government owned who are going to require all female Liverpool staff to wear hijab and impose sharia law in Liverpool.

I'm not saying that Qatar and the middle east are immune from criticism, they deserve to be called out on issues like migrant rights, but I feel like there is a widespread stereotyping like we are all some savages and it's not a nice thing to read especially from our fans who claim to be socialist and left wing. The comments I've seen posted it about us were straight comments you'd see on a Nigel Farage show in GB News.

You don’t want to be spending too much time at Rawk mate. Notorious full blown racism over in scouseland. The hate is in inherited from past generations. No country that is run by man is clean. Feral bunch consumed by hate.It’s easier for them to slander our achievements than deal with not winning. The bad Arabs stops us. Don’t wast your time trying to educate. Racist football jealous fans dressed up as banter.