Liverpool Thread - 2022/23

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KS55 said:
Of course Liverpool’s high port taxes played its part and were much resented in M/cr. So much so that the ship canal was built. Scousers resented this, feeling they had been diddled out of their due. Should not have been so greedy. Enmity between Liverpool and M/cr followed.
Scouse venality played a big part in the demise of Liverpool docks. That trade goes elsewhere now, Preston being a big beneficiary.
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KentBlue said:
Some people think that it's a relatively new thing, disliking the dippers. And from a footballing perspective this is almost certainly true. It's only in the last few years that their name has pinged up on the radar again after about 30 years of footballing wilderness.
But the general dislike of all things Scouse goes way, way back. I remember grandparents saying never trust a scouser: they are lying, thieving, unscrupulous people with no morals whatsoever.

Naturally this is not indicative of the entire population of the city of Liverpool: of course not. One bad apple and all that. But that was the general feeling when I was growing up.

Years later I became a guitarist/vocalist and I applied my trade throughout the south east: pubs, clubs, wedding receptions, cruise ferries, etc. And then the Channel Tunnel came along. An influx of European labourers, carpenters, plasterers etc seemed to appear almost overnight in search of work.
Many of these transient labourers were Scousers. And it was meeting some of these people in the clubs and pubs where I was playing that reinforced the stereotype that I'd grown up with...and some!
I'll not go into detail but I can assure you after every gig the locals would watch over my gear as I went to and fro putting the amps and cabs etc into the van.

These people would routinely steal ashtrays, beermats, empty glasses - anything they could get their hands on. Now why the fuck would you want to steal a beermat, FFS!

The tunnel was finished and opened to the public in the mid-1990's, but the sour aftertaste of the visiting Scousers is still being experienced by those that remember the late 80's early 90's in the Garden of England.
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In a former life i used to run sales/canvassing teams from derby up to the north east, pretty much the whole of the north. I had some rum lads from gateshead, leeds, derby, salford, blackpool, all over. Proper rum lads, scrapping with each other, always trying to pull wool over your eyes, could be a pain but usually once they knew theyd been caught out theyd smile and wink. One thing, any rows were forgotten about next day.

Then you had scousers. Fuck me, total and utter different breed. Would lie, lie, lie again and lie some more, were monumental pains in the arses, unscrupulous , untrustworthy. Nasty. My MD in the end banned them from the office.
Eventually we fucked anything west of warrington and south of wigan off. That included skelm, st helens, runcorn etc. wasnt worth the hassle.
 
manclad said:
It wasn't McAlpines.
It was Wimpey who employed all the Irish .
Don't you remember the initials -


We
Import
More
Paddy's
Every
Year
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Yeah, I remember that, but still think it was McA.
The song McAlpines Fusileers is not an historical source, but it’s the best I can do at the mo. It charts the story of Irish emmigration to England.
McA built Maine Road, which made them the greatest construction co ever!
 
KS55 said:
Of course Liverpool’s high port taxes played its part and were much resented in M/cr. So much so that the ship canal was built. Scousers resented this, feeling they had been diddled out of their due. Should not have been so greedy. Enmity between Liverpool and M/cr followed.
Scouse venality played a big part in the demise of Liverpool docks. That trade goes elsewhere now, Preston being a big beneficiary.
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And this socialist myth..they act more like Tories with their blatant 'out for themselves' attitude. Not exactly looking after their brothers and comrades! yet they start calling us and others .....Tories......a lot of them are pure mental. Never heard of the Co-op or Emily Pankhurst have they!!
 
Ian Blake said:
Its the 'long to reign over us'' line that i can't stomach...we are all equal aren't we? I wont boo
.just keep my counsel ..that's the beauty of free expression though...imagine being in North Korea being made to sing it..madness
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On Saturday I sang: “Long to Reign Over You”. Not sure they heard my valiant efforts at the other end, but maybe it will catch on.
 
OccupiedPalestineBlues said:
My dad had a green grocers in Moss Side back in the 60’s. It was an immigrant area and his customers were either the tail end of the Irish influx or, in the main, from the West Indies. All good folk one and all.
My dad catered for those from the West Indies by stocking mangoes, yams, cooking bananas, sugar cane etc. Fruit and veg that wasn’t generally available from the wholesale markets in those days.
Thus he’d order it and buy it directly from the docks - but the cost of the extortion / backhanders demanded at Liverpool meant that he’d drive to Felixstowe or London to get his stock - and that was in an ex-post office Commer van in the days before motorways, so it was a major undertaking every time.
He’d rather do that than pay a tribute to the scouse gangsters - it makes me especially proud for him every time I remember that, and makes me remember why I can’t stand the feral scouse.
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I have a lot of time and admiration for that level of moral fibre and stubbornness............. :-)
 
OccupiedPalestineBlues said:
My dad had a green grocers in Moss Side back in the 60’s. It was an immigrant area and his customers were either the tail end of the Irish influx or, in the main, from the West Indies. All good folk one and all.
My dad catered for those from the West Indies by stocking mangoes, yams, cooking bananas, sugar cane etc. Fruit and veg that wasn’t generally available from the wholesale markets in those days.
Thus he’d order it and buy it directly from the docks - but the cost of the extortion / backhanders demanded at Liverpool meant that he’d drive to Felixstowe or London to get his stock - and that was in an ex-post office Commer van in the days before motorways, so it was a major undertaking every time.
He’d rather do that than pay a tribute to the scouse gangsters - it makes me especially proud for him every time I remember that, and makes me remember why I can’t stand the feral scouse.
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Fantastic story.

Sure it wasn't an "Asterix" van and not a Commer van! :-)
 
i kne albert davy said:
I use to work in his factory, of course Mrs Thatcher put a stop to that sort of thing.
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Can't ever forget what Thatcher did to Greater Manchester..miss managed decline..it was tge will of the people here who stuck 2 fingers up to tge establishment and dragged the City back up..no help from the tories or right wing press.. gunchester headlines mocking us made it much harder for attracting investment. The North West was fucked over..not just unique to da pool
 
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