Liverpool Thread - 2022/23

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Were my eyes deceiving me, or was there a bit of friction between Allison and the Liverpool fans when the scousers were delaying throwing the ball back for him to take a goal kick?
 
FantasyIreland said:
I wonder if they are regretting giving Salah that ludicrous contract and not making another killing on him.

Hope so;-)
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Can you imagine the position the Liverpool board would have been in if they had cashed in on Salah AND Mane in one summer and had a season like this one? They wouldn’t be wrecking opposition coaches it would have been director’s cars.
 
FantasyIreland said:
I wonder if they are regretting giving Salah that ludicrous contract and not making another killing on him.

Hope so;-)
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I thought at the time that perhaps we were selling the wrong forward.... for Klopps "style" it is so much about work rate and mane personfied that so much more than Salah.
But you gotta live with the decision and try and make bets of it.
 
brighton 2 - 1 liverpool

Awaits talksports.........how klopp played a blinder going out of the cup so as to help pip fellow top four hopefuls
brighton to fourth spot.

"They now have more games to play than us" beams a delighted klopp in the post match interview, he also admits it was a tough game as var "tried their very best" to keep us in it.

Summary...
Klopp cleverley plays a weakened side to "test" brightons abilities for when they meet them in the lea......shit.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
The size of a club doesn’t make any difference to anything, it doesn’t even mean anything. There’s no such thing as the word ‘should’ in English football either.

Sheffield Wednesday, Sunderland, Leeds and City have all had years in the third tier… I wouldn’t even call those dark days because there are hardcore fans of clubs divisions below that who turn up week-in-week-out who would dream of their club getting up to that division. Whether the expectations of Weds Sund Leeds and City fans are way beyond the fans of clubs who could only dream of being in the third tier are neither here nor there.

League 1 Sheffield Wednesday are traditionally a bigger club than Fulham, Brentford and Brighton who are in the top half of the Premier League. But if they have any fans saying ‘Wednesday should be up where those clubs are, we’re a bigger club than all of them’, they’d be wrong. All clubs are where they deserve to be and are there for a reason (how they’re run; on or off the pitch or both).

Liverpool are currently 8th. Liverpool’s average finishing position in the all-time English league system is 8.1. You said Top 4 should be a minimum, but even in the Premier League era Liverpool’s average finishing position is 4.33.

Liverpool spent eight seasons in the Second Division not all that long before they won four European Cups in eight seasons. Which eight seasons are most representative of Liverpool? I’d argue neither, they were just two sets of eight seasons of Liverpool at their extremes and the reality is neither of them are truly what Liverpool are. The realities are more likely to be the averages, for all clubs.

It’s the average 8.1 finishing position that is what Liverpool are more than they are the team that spent eight seasons in a row in the Second Division or that won four European Cups in eight seasons.

In Liverpool’s 130 years, they’ve had 40 years where they’ve won at least one trophy but 90 years where they’ve won nothing. So it’s far more likely and more common that, even one of the most decorated clubs in England wins absolutely nothing and finishes 8th than it is they win something or even finish in the Top 4.

What gets on everyone’s nerves about Liverpool fans is this ‘should’ mentality. ‘Liverpool “should” be challenging because they’re a big club’… it means nothing.

Shoulda woulda coulda and a lorra lorra laughs. English football is competitive, no team has really won that many league titles, 19 and 20 are very low numbers for a top league’s most league title winners (English football has had 96 years where neither Liverpool or United has won the league, that dwarves even Liverpool and United’s league titles combined), no team’s average finishing position is higher than that 8.1 of Liverpool’s, and that’s all because in English football there’s no such thing as ‘should’.
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Well I’m impressed
 
blue whippet said:
I don't think the problem is with var but the idiots who operate it. It's a bit like when I try something technical on the computer, or even my phone. I moan about the technology but really it is my incompetence. I'm not corrupt though.
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The VAR is just a bloke watching the telly who can watch as many replays from multiple angles, as he wants. It's not "operated". They need to fuck it off or start getting the decisions right. Personally hope they fuck it off.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
The size of a club doesn’t make any difference to anything, it doesn’t even mean anything. There’s no such thing as the word ‘should’ in English football either.

Sheffield Wednesday, Sunderland, Leeds and City have all had years in the third tier… I wouldn’t even call those dark days because there are hardcore fans of clubs divisions below that who turn up week-in-week-out who would dream of their club getting up to that division. Whether the expectations of Weds Sund Leeds and City fans are way beyond the fans of clubs who could only dream of being in the third tier are neither here nor there.

League 1 Sheffield Wednesday are traditionally a bigger club than Fulham, Brentford and Brighton who are in the top half of the Premier League. But if they have any fans saying ‘Wednesday should be up where those clubs are, we’re a bigger club than all of them’, they’d be wrong. All clubs are where they deserve to be and are there for a reason (how they’re run; on or off the pitch or both).

Liverpool are currently 8th. Liverpool’s average finishing position in the all-time English league system is 8.1. You said Top 4 should be a minimum, but even in the Premier League era Liverpool’s average finishing position is 4.33.

Liverpool spent eight seasons in the Second Division not all that long before they won four European Cups in eight seasons. Which eight seasons are most representative of Liverpool? I’d argue neither, they were just two sets of eight seasons of Liverpool at their extremes and the reality is neither of them are truly what Liverpool are. The realities are more likely to be the averages, for all clubs.

It’s the average 8.1 finishing position that is what Liverpool are more than they are the team that spent eight seasons in a row in the Second Division or that won four European Cups in eight seasons.

In Liverpool’s 130 years, they’ve had 40 years where they’ve won at least one trophy but 90 years where they’ve won nothing. So it’s far more likely and more common that, even one of the most decorated clubs in England wins absolutely nothing and finishes 8th than it is they win something or even finish in the Top 4.

What gets on everyone’s nerves about Liverpool fans is this ‘should’ mentality. ‘Liverpool “should” be challenging because they’re a big club’… it means nothing.

Shoulda woulda coulda and a lorra lorra laughs. English football is competitive, no team has really won that many league titles, 19 and 20 are very low numbers for a top league’s most league title winners (English football has had 96 years where neither Liverpool or United has won the league, that dwarves even Liverpool and United’s league titles combined), no team’s average finishing position is higher than that 8.1 of Liverpool’s, and that’s all because in English football there’s no such thing as ‘should’.
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madloaf said:
Just over on rawk enjoying the view - This comment on Gakpo:

"Agree. One of the few positives from today. He's not a winger, but I could see him having the potential to replace Bobby. He's got a good touch, runs well with the ball and won the ball back a few times too. Think if he fits anywhere for us, it's as a false 9."

Two takes on this:

1. Isn't Nunez a false 9 already?
2. Nunez cost 87m and they've already replaced him with Gakpo.
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I was disappointed when utd missed out on Gakpo. At least he went to the next best place
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
It's criminal the amount of yellow and red card offences the Dipper's get away with, week-in-week-out. If ANY other organisation got away with so many comparable regulatory transgressions they would be investigated for fraud.
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Not just them though, their fucking Red inbred cousins from Trafford are the same.
 
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