Liverpool Thread - 2022/23

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The reason the ATV song upsets them so much is because it highlights DARVO. (Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender)

That’s been their strategy, that’s their get out of jail card & it’s blatantly obvious to all other supporters across Europe. So they increase their victim campaign to even higher levels making the chant even more appropriate.

The proof it’s all a sham is not 1 person has flashbacks or fear when they were all jam packed throwing bottles & flares at our coach but put them in a queue & they won’t leave they’ll stay & try to get in.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I don’t see how it could be an enforceable law in any way, unless someone was expressly prohibited from actually singing the words ‘Hillsborough’ or ‘Heysel’ in a song.

What are they going to do, provide a schedule with prohibited songs? How the fuck does that work? What if supporters changed the words slightly? Would there be lobbying as the whether ‘always the victims’ should be in there? What would the basis be for making that song illegal to sing? What if the person charged said he was singling ‘victim’, not ‘victims’. How are the prosecution going to prove that? Or are they going to widen the scope to include singular and plural?

It would be an absolute abortion.
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It's happening now. There were screens in the concourse showing bans for fans and abusive chants were in there. It's wank because the 'always the victims' as we all know has fuck all to do with Hillsborough, but they've convinced the BBC and everyone else that it is.
 
malg said:
It's happening now. There were screens in the concourse showing bans for fans and abusive chants were in there. It's wank because the 'always the victims' as we all know has fuck all to do with Hillsborough, but they've convinced the BBC and everyone else that it is.
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I spotted that and did wonder has that always been on the screens at half time and i just hadn't noticed it, or was it new. It'll be a ban-able offence soon, can guarantee it. And you are 100% right, always the victims is not about Hillsborough, but these pricks cry about anything that they don't like.
 
bluejon said:
I spotted that and did wonder has that always been on the screens at half time and i just hadn't noticed it, or was it new. It'll be a ban-able offence soon, can guarantee it. And you are 100% right, always the victims is not about Hillsborough, but these pricks cry about anything that they don't like.
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It was new as I've definitely not seen it before.
 
malg said:
It's happening now. There were screens in the concourse showing bans for fans and abusive chants were in there. It's wank because the 'always the victims' as we all know has fuck all to do with Hillsborough, but they've convinced the BBC and everyone else that it is.
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Like I’ve said, I’d like to see them try and legally enforce the banning of that particular song. With the clubs it’s slightly different as they can pretty much ban who they want without due cause, but I think City would be opening themselves up to a world of pain from its supporters if they did.
 
malg said:
It's happening now. There were screens in the concourse showing bans for fans and abusive chants were in there. It's wank because the 'always the victims' as we all know has fuck all to do with Hillsborough, but they've convinced the BBC and everyone else that it is.
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Imagine being prosecuted or banned for singing always the victims, never your fault.

Surely this could be challenged & any case would actually highlight the hundreds of incidents that the Dippers are actually trying to bury.
 
cheekybids said:
Imagine being prosecuted or banned for singing always the victims, never your fault.

Surely this could be challenged & any case would actually highlight the hundreds of incidents that the Dippers are actually trying to bury.
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No-one is being prosecuted for singing that song. Banned is a different threshold, though.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Like I’ve said, I’d like to see them try and legally enforce the banning of that particular song. With the clubs it’s slightly different as they can pretty much ban who they want without due cause, but I think City would be opening themselves up to a world of pain from its supporters if they did.
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Ironically, their desire to elevate being a dipper to a protected characteristic in the eyes of the law making these song a hate crime sort of confirms the victims thing.
 
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