Liverpool Thread - 2023/24

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Remember Bingo's and the media ran with the excuse that they failed to defend the COVID premier league because they played more games than anyone else ( Club world cup year)
Well we done the club world cup and still in the fa cup so must have played more then all the rest - we are something special.
 
Remember Bingo's and the media ran with the excuse that they failed to defend the COVID premier league because they played more games than anyone else ( Club world cup year)
Well we done the club world cup and still in the fa cup so must have played more then all the rest - we are something special.
And, if we’d failed to win the League, Pep wouldn’t have come out with ridiculous excuses.
 
I first posted the following in 2018, I think. Still pertinent today and relates to your observations. Given it was expressing the reflections and experience of one our most respected UK sports/football journalists of all time, I do think this has value in assessing the views and antics of our 'Red Chums' at the other end of the EastLancs.. and especially when contrasted against the behaviours of their Blue neighbours across the city..

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Herewith Brian Glanville's take on the matters of behaviours evidenced by Liverpool supporters and the media.

This is taken from Glanville's book 'Champions of Europe; The History, Romance and Intrigue of the European Cup' (1991), some six and two years respectively after Heysel and Hillsborough. Glanville writes:

"As a club, Liverpool, alas, were not remotely matched by their notorious supporters.

Among these there was beyond doubt a core of decent, largely middle-aged, peaceful, pleasant fans, who would share the mature, sensible attitudes of the club itself.

There were also, as fans from other clubs all over the country knew all too well, thousands of brutalised, violent toughs, whose excesses had been known for many years.

When the detested Manchester United went to Anfield shortly before Heysel the city had seemed awash with hatred. Coaches and trains of United’s supporters were stoned. Mechanics would run out of garages to scream abuse at the coaches as they went by. When United, just a few weeks later, came once more to Merseyside to play Liverpool, this time in the FA Cup semi-final at Goodison Park, Liverpool’s supporters were firing flares into the Manchester fans’ sections.

Quite where Liverpool’s following had gained its spurious reputation for good conduct with a blinkered press was obscure.

But then, journalists see little or nothing from the Press Box, nothing of what goes on, often sinister and violent, in the surrounding streets and alleys, at railway stations. Unless they are privy to good, first-hand information, journalists accept the public, distorted image; in this case, a misleadingly benign one.

Nor would it be enough to say that violence among Liverpool fans could be explained by unemployment, the crumbling and deliquescence of a doomed city given the behaviour of Everton’s fans, in Rotterdam for the Cup Winners’ Cup Final two weeks before, which had been exemplary."
Claps many times.
 
Here's an example of their entitled attitude

"We are one of the two biggest clubs in the country, the name and support base will ensure the club will always be there or thereabouts. Our depths are 6th, 7th, 8th (years between Rafa ending and 2013/14). United are at that now, but that won't last. .

We have the most iconic club ground in the country, the most famous anthem on the planet, players (and managers) are drawn to the club. To quote Kuyt upon signing, "dream club". Our 50 million will go much further than the Ev's 50 million for example."
 
Here's an example of their entitled attitude

"We are one of the two biggest clubs in the country, the name and support base will ensure the club will always be there or thereabouts. Our depths are 6th, 7th, 8th (years between Rafa ending and 2013/14). United are at that now, but that won't last. .

We have the most iconic club ground in the country, the most famous anthem on the planet, players (and managers) are drawn to the club. To quote Kuyt upon signing, "dream club". Our 50 million will go much further than the Ev's 50 million for example."

To quote Kuyt……

Fck me of all the people they could have added to give his argument weight….. its clear everyone is given a script upon signing.
 
Apparently, Arne Slots arrival is good news for the 'Klopp Kids'. Now, doesn't that fill you with joy? Meanwhile, as other clubs prepare for a new manager, it's all about concerns and could be problems.
 
Here's an example of their entitled attitude

"We are one of the two biggest clubs in the country, the name and support base will ensure the club will always be there or thereabouts. Our depths are 6th, 7th, 8th (years between Rafa ending and 2013/14). United are at that now, but that won't last. .

We have the most iconic club ground in the country, the most famous anthem on the planet, players (and managers) are drawn to the club. To quote Kuyt upon signing, "dream club". Our 50 million will go much further than the Ev's 50 million for example."

95 percent of their trophies were won when you could pass the ball back to the goal keeper. They don’t seem to be attractive enough to have owners who are ambitious enough to go out and be successful on the pitch and only wanted to buy the club if financial fair play was enforced.

They set back English football years with their actions in 1986 but seek to blame others for their actions.

Any player that shows promise uses them as a stepping stone to move to more successful clubs .
Their ground looks like Maine Road on Steroids and is located in an absolute shit tip area of Liverpool.

Non of their supporters would actually have any interest in following them if they hadn’t had a period of success in the 70s and 80s.
 
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