Liverpool Thread - 2023/24

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Not gonna lie, the dippers midfield and front line are dynamic as fuck unfortunately! They lack squad depth though abd a couple of key injuries will have them in trouble. Salah will unfortunately move to Saudi probably next summer for at least £150m and arm them twats with a big summer war chest again
 
yatesy94. said:
Some cocky/deluded Scouse fan on 606 said no doubt in his mind Liverpool will romp the league, they're by far best side in league and City don't have "the bottle" to win the title again after achieving the treble...adamant that we'll have a drop off. Something else that lot are. Remind me who bottled the league last 4 times out of last 5 and two Champions League + a Europa finals. Mentality monsters indeed.
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Anyone who accuses this group of players of lacking bottle after what they achieved in 2018/19, 2021/22 and last season has zero grip on reality.
 
Oddchild said:
Starting to get excited. Klopp has done an incredible job with his midfield rebuild. 4 players for under 150m.

We got Mac Allister, Szoboszlai, Gravenbach and Endo for the same price as the rags paid for Mount and Antony

I honestly think we are about to leave the rest behind and be the main challenger again.
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You'll be right up there, although a couple of injures could see your challenge fall short. It's going to be an interesting season especially with spurs and arsenal also in the mix.
 
Andy TheCatalyst Morrison said:
Breaking news: (ex) Liverpool fan would like to go back to the 80s. No shit Sherlock!
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Nothing at all to do with trophies won either..
Football was well better.. tackling.. not infested with overseas players.. nowhere near as much diving.. no imaginary red and yellow cards held up by players. No VAR.. proper personalities.. no players being bigger than there clubs.. fans being able to relate to players on the pitch.. no prawn sandwich brigade.. proper bovril and sausage roll instead of minted lamb burgers.. fans traveling to games on the bus instead of BMW and Mercedes and proper pundits like Rodney Marsh.. Big Ron from Old Swan and Cloughie instead of a forced ex woman footballer who is basically only there to tick a box and so they meet the discrimination rules... SKY controlling and monopolising the game and dictating when you play football matches hardly any 3 o'clock kick offs..
Like I say football was well better in the day.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Not been to Anfield for a few years, and in my 30s and 40s I always went to City games there as a corporate guest, which shields you from all that. But went there in the City end a few times in my late teens and early 20s and it was always really edgy.

Although the most scrapping I saw at an away game on Merseyside was after the League Cup quarter final against Everton in the 1987/8 season.
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Absolute chaos that night
 
Tom Ford said:
Nothing at all to do with trophies won either..
Football was well better.. tackling.. not infested with overseas players.. nowhere near as much diving.. no imaginary red and yellow cards held up by players. No VAR.. proper personalities.. no players being bigger than there clubs.. fans being able to relate to players on the pitch.. no prawn sandwich brigade.. proper bovril and sausage roll instead of minted lamb burgers.. fans traveling to games on the bus instead of BMW and Mercedes and proper pundits like Rodney Marsh.. Big Ron from Old Swan and Cloughie instead of a forced ex woman footballer who is basically only there to tick a box and so they meet the discrimination rules... SKY controlling and monopolising the game and dictating when you play football matches hardly any 3 o'clock kick offs..
Like I say football was well better in the day.
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But technically it wasn't in fact it was bloody dreadful to watch at times, you also had the hooliganism that very nearly killed off the game, I agree about the lack of 3pm KO's
 
Tom Ford said:
Nothing at all to do with trophies won either..
Football was well better.. tackling.. not infested with overseas players.. nowhere near as much diving.. no imaginary red and yellow cards held up by players. No VAR.. proper personalities.. no players being bigger than there clubs.. fans being able to relate to players on the pitch.. no prawn sandwich brigade.. proper bovril and sausage roll instead of minted lamb burgers.. fans traveling to games on the bus instead of BMW and Mercedes and proper pundits like Rodney Marsh.. Big Ron from Old Swan and Cloughie instead of a forced ex woman footballer who is basically only there to tick a box and so they meet the discrimination rules... SKY controlling and monopolising the game and dictating when you play football matches hardly any 3 o'clock kick offs..
Like I say football was well better in the day.
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To be fair, as someone who is largely of the opinion that social media and Sky TV have made the experience of football much worse - you're also talking about an era when English football hooliganism and policing were both so bad that it was unsafe to even go to football matches sometimes and resulted in the entire country being banned from European football for five years after hundreds were killed both on home soil and abroad.
 
Ducado said:
But technically it wasn't in fact it was bloody dreadful to watch at times, you also had the hooliganism that very nearly killed off the game, I agree about the lack of 3pm KO's
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I remember rewatching a derby from around 1993 on Sky, think it was the one we lost when Keane scored at the Platt Lane End. The standard of football was awful, everything punted long and playing the percentages. Some of the tackles looked like full on assaults.

We can berate some of the foreign influences on the game that have crept in over time but it has certainly lifted the technical side of what we see on a pitch.

Is watching John Fashanu at Plough Lane getting on the end of a punt up the pitch whilst jumping into his marker with an elbow and nearly assaulting him. In a dilapidated probably dangerous stadium whilst played on a cabbage patch of a pitch that romantic?
 
Tom Ford said:
Nothing at all to do with trophies won either..
Football was well better.. tackling.. not infested with overseas players.. nowhere near as much diving.. no imaginary red and yellow cards held up by players. No VAR.. proper personalities.. no players being bigger than there clubs.. fans being able to relate to players on the pitch.. no prawn sandwich brigade.. proper bovril and sausage roll instead of minted lamb burgers.. fans traveling to games on the bus instead of BMW and Mercedes and proper pundits like Rodney Marsh.. Big Ron from Old Swan and Cloughie instead of a forced ex woman footballer who is basically only there to tick a box and so they meet the discrimination rules... SKY controlling and monopolising the game and dictating when you play football matches hardly any 3 o'clock kick offs..
Like I say football was well better in the day.
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Bloody hell, there is so much to pick apart in that post so I won’t bother with everything.

You may have enjoyed the match going experience in the 80s but a lot of people probably didn’t - women, children, ethnic minorities, old folk for a start.

And as for “infested with overseas players” - are you Suella Braverman? Priti Patel? Nigel Farage perhaps? Apart from a fucking weird choice of language, the standard of football in England today is vastly superior to that of the 80s, largely due to those bloody foreigners. It isn’t perfect and I personally would prefer more contact than is generally allowed today but have you watched matches back from the 70s and 80s where skilful players got kicked all over the park?
 
Andy TheCatalyst Morrison said:
Bloody hell, there is so much to pick apart in that post so I won’t bother with everything.

You may have enjoyed the match going experience in the 80s but a lot of people probably didn’t - women, children, ethnic minorities, old folk for a start.

And as for “infested with overseas players” - are you Suella Braverman? Priti Patel? Nigel Farage perhaps? Apart from a fucking weird choice of language, the standard of football in England today is vastly superior to that of the 80s, largely due to those bloody foreigners. It isn’t perfect and I personally would prefer more contact than is generally allowed today but have you watched matches back from the 70s and 80s where skilful players got kicked all over the park?
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Liverpool long for a time when the pass back rule wasn’t in play.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
Is watching John Fashanu at Plough Lane getting on the end of a punt up the pitch whilst jumping into his marker with an elbow and nearly assaulting him. In a dilapidated probably dangerous stadium whilst played on a cabbage patch of a pitch that romantic?
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In my view its the same now as it was then...in the sense that, we all take something different out of a game/experience. One of my fondest memories at a match was watching Terry Hurlock & Peter Reid scrapping all afternoon when you lot played at The Den. I was stewarding that day on the half way line and so had a excellent view...with occasional looks at the crowd in the terracing to fulfil why I was meant to be there.
Obviously that scrap was old school but did provide as much pleasure/appreciation as watching Szoboszlai today or you lot dismantling the Rags the other day.

And then without the Sky money would we have some of the modern grounds and facilities we have today? Would we have some of the worlds best players gracing our pitches...and getting to see them in the flesh rather than having to watch Football Italia with James Richardson.
 
A lot of people seem to miss the point about why the old game was better than this now sanitised form.. let’s look at the Fash the bash point.. yeah ofcorse he was no frills.. he was big awkward and no nonesense but he used the tools he had.. he was different to Rush or Lineker but the game gave you that difference unlike now where every player has to be technical or fast depending on how close to the blueprint they are tells you how good they are.. very boring..
Look at the point about Peter Reid and Terry Hurloch.. back in the they were the complete opposite to your Hoddles and Molby of this world.. you would walk to the match and be wondering who would win the battle today., the good of Hoddle or the destroyer of Hurloch.. it was never a given and whoever won the battle more or less effected the outcome of the match.. you don’t get that now you have the game weighted 94 per cent in Hoddles favour by stopping the tackling that’s never been about what football was about.
A person made the point that people loved a good good hard tackle.. even a punch up like Franny Lee.. the atmosphere was at time over the top however that made it better and you enjoyed a win more..
nobody likes to see people get hurt in sport.. however. It’s part and parcel and the risk and danger adds to the excitement.. you gonna stop the Grand Prix cars not going over 30mph.. breed the horses so if they fall on jockeys they won’t get hurt.. make boxing gloves made of soft sponge so you can’t knock someone out.. we’re you want it to end..
Some good points tho about the game then and now..
 
youngbob said:
To be fair, as someone who is largely of the opinion that social media and Sky TV have made the experience of football much worse - you're also talking about an era when English football hooliganism and policing were both so bad that it was unsafe to even go to football matches sometimes and resulted in the entire country being banned from European football for five years after hundreds were killed both on home soil and abroad.
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Who did that?
 
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