Liverpool Thread - 2023/24

[Gingers Dad]

Remember when City were flying back from Brighton after winning the league in 2019. They were all singing the Allez allez song which references they’re fans coming a cropper in Kiev. The outrage from it led them to link it to the poor guy who was attacked outside Anfield. They will do the mental gymnastics to associate anything with anything where their club or supporters have been wronged.

This game against Liverpool end of the month, please don’t partake in singing songs about victims. You are giving them what they want, they enjoy revelling in outrage, self pity and being wronged. Spend the whole 90 minutes instead reminding them that they have never won a treble.

And wear a hard hat if your in the lower tiers of the South Stand.

 

[cheekybids]

Remember when City were flying back from Brighton after winning the league in 2019. They were all singing the Allez allez song which references they’re fans coming a cropper in Kiev. The outrage from it led them to link it to the poor guy who was attacked outside Anfield. They will do the mental gymnastics to associate anything with anything where their club or supporters have been wronged.

This game against Liverpool end of the month, please don’t partake in singing songs about victims. You are giving them what they want, they enjoy revelling in outrage, self pity and being wronged. Spend the whole 90 minutes instead reminding them that they have never won a treble.

We should sing completely different words to the same tune…..

“It’s always raining…..sun never shines.”

They’d be devastated.

 

[BlueRockape]

Thing is there is no way of taking action against fans who sing it. Just because the dippers think it's about Hillsborough doesnt make it against the law. The dippers dont rule this country's free speech la.

If the fa or pl charge a club for fans singing always the victim never your fault. I would like to see this challenged.

It's someone point of view v someone else's point of view. The word Hillsborough isnt mention so its clearly the dippers turning it into something it isnt.

Songs that mention Munich, Hillsborough etc are differently out of order. But singing about the dippers general behaviour is not. It's a sing about the dippers in Paris, Heysel, coach welcomes, throwing objects, jibbing in, fake tickets etc.

The fact that they cry about the song proves the point of the song ; )

 

[TonyM]

I think there should be a song that specifically calls out their nature but doesn't mention Hillsborough. E.g.

Fuck you very much for bricking our bus
Fuck you very much fuck you very very very much

Fuck you very much for coining a child
Fuck you very much fuck you very very very much

Fuck you very much for spitting at children
Fuck you very much fuck you very very very much

Fuck you very much for supporting a racist
Fuck you very much fuck you very very very much

Fuck you very much for murder in Europe
Fuck you very much fuck you very very very much

You are fucking cunts and the country hates you
Thank you very very much

 

[Father Paul]

I still think Liverpool are our main challengers as they have goals in them. Arteta is too emotional and they lack clinical goal attack. I may be wrong and I don't ever expect anything having watched us in the third tier.

We will find out more about the relative positions of both teams in a few weeks when the dippers arrive in town.

 

[Father Paul]

Thing is there is no way of taking action against fans who sing it. Just because the dippers think it's about Hillsborough doesnt make it against the law. The dippers dont rule this country's free speech la.

If the fa or pl charge a club for fans singing always the victim never your fault. I would like to see this challenged.

It's someone point of view v someone else's point of view. The word Hillsborough isnt mention so its clearly the dippers turning it into something it isnt.

Songs that mention Munich, Hillsborough etc are differently out of order. But singing about the dippers general behaviour is not. It's a sing about the dippers in Paris, Heysel, coach welcomes, throwing objects, jibbing in, fake tickets etc.

I agree with your post but there is a strain of legal thought which suggests that it is the perception of the so called offended person of a comment being offensive which is more important than the actual wording of the comment itself. So if a dipper feels they have been offended that's all that counts even if the comment or chant does not mention Hillsborough.

 

[Mr Blue Moon]

I think there should be a song that specifically calls out their nature but doesn't mention Hillsborough. E.g.

Fuck you very much for bricking our bus
Fuck you very much fuck you very very very much

Fuck you very much for coining a child
Fuck you very much fuck you very very very much

Fuck you very much for spitting at children
Fuck you very much fuck you very very very much

Fuck you very much for supporting a racist
Fuck you very much fuck you very very very much

Fuck you very much for murder in Europe
Fuck you very much fuck you very very very much

You are fucking cunts and the country hates you Thank you very very much

I think you’ve just got next year’s Eurovision entry

 

[give it to gordon]

I agree with your post but there is a strain of legal thought which suggests that it is the perception of the so called offended person of a comment being offensive which is more important than the actual wording of the comment itself. So if a dipper feels they have been offended that's all that counts even if the comment or chant does not mention Hillsborough.

Wow so if I get offered because people call me garibaldi, they say it's a biscuit and I say its aimed at because I'm Gary and a Baldy I win !!

 

[Gazza]

Wow so if I get offered because people call me garibaldi, they say it's a biscuit and I say its aimed at because I'm Gary and a Baldy I win !!

Oh crumbs.

 

[117 M34]

Wow so if I get offered because people call me garibaldi, they say it's a biscuit and I say its aimed at because I'm Gary and a Baldy I win !!

Be Nice

 

[ZanteWeatherman]

Nunez is fucking shit, that is all

I said to my mate "Fucking hell, he's raheemed it"

 

[Andy TheCatalyst Morrison]

Wow so if I get offered because people call me garibaldi, they say it's a biscuit and I say it’s aimed at because I'm Gary and a Baldy I win !!

That news is going to be hard to digest(ive) for some

 

[Mon Autre]

Always surprises me how many people seem to think "We're not singing about about Hillsborough, were singing about a different tragedy" seems to be an acceptable defence whenever this comes up.

 

[Coatigan]

Always surprises me how many people seem to think "We're not singing about about Hillsborough, were singing about a different tragedy" seems to be an acceptable defence whenever this comes up.

What other tragedy is it they are they singing about?

Nobody that accuses it of being a tragedy chant has ever claimed it to be anything other than about Hillsborough.

 

[Gazza]

Nunez is fucking shit, that is all

Mind you, the header from Salah was a bit 50p head.

 

[Pontypool Blue]

I was in the London Dungeon yesterday.
In the Courtroom scene they pick a Random guy into the dock where he is asked by the judge "And where are you from ?"
He replies "Liverpool"
"GUILTY - HANG HIM! " is the immediate reply.
I've been before so know this is how it always plays out, but I found it funnier that I ought too.
Made sure he saw my City bobble hat on the way out lol

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Always surprises me how many people seem to think "We're not singing about about Hillsborough, were singing about a different tragedy" seems to be an acceptable defence whenever this comes up.

I agree with this. No doubt the song was originally about Heysel but the "victim" phrase is tasteless given the Hillsborough history. I have never sung this song. It was originally started by United fans and just gives more ammunition to our enemies. Don't get me wrong. I do believe some LFC fans have to some extent "weaponised" Hillsborough and MUFC have certainly commercialised "Munich" but our fans should show more class and rise above it all. For example "Old Trafford is falling down" is brilliant.

 

[Betterdeedthan red]

I agree with your post but there is a strain of legal thought which suggests that it is the perception of the so called offended person of a comment being offensive which is more important than the actual wording of the comment itself. So if a dipper feels they have been offended that's all that counts even if the comment or chant does not mention Hillsborough.

But everything offends them

 

[mexico1970]

What other tragedy is it they are they singing about?

Nobody that accuses it of being a tragedy chant has ever claimed it to be anything other than about Hillsborough.

Singing about the scouse victimhood is holding a mirror up to them, Heysel is relevant in fact it's more than relevant it encapsulates how they want special dispensation for everything.

Obviously LFC would want this forgotten about, amazing that some football fans want to sanitise chants and replace them with nursery rhymes whilst moralising how bad others are compared to them.

 

[Coatigan]

Singing about the scouse victimhood is holding a mirror up to them, Heysel is relevant in fact it's more than relevant it encapsulates how they want special dispensation for everything.

Obviously LFC would want this forgotten about, amazing that some football fans want to sanitise chants and replace them with nursery rhymes whilst moralising how bad others are compared to them.

The point I was responding to was claiming that it is a 'tragedy chant' and that people are using a get out of 'but it's not about Hillsborough but about another tragedy so it is ok'.

When a), anyone claiming it to be a tragedy chant has only ever claimed it to be about Hillsborough, and b) anyone claiming it is Not a tragedy chant has only ever argued it isn't about any tragedy, rather than not about a specific one but about another.

Hence the question.