Liz Truss

I think I've watched the clip over her looking absolutely lost and silent 20 times. I vary from thinking it's fucking hilarious to being absolutely fucking furious that someone so absolutely useless is our Prime Minister. She's so singularly inept and I can't see even one redeeming feature. I'm baffled.

Slytherin house will no doubt concoct a way of manipulating the narrative to dodge the sorely needed general election.
No chance of a GE mate, she was asked to call one at pm's questions in parliament.

Her answer was "the last thing we need is a general election"

The "we" is no doubt the parliamentary tory party, and not the country as a whole.
 
Mate, if you wanted to get there I wouldn't start from here.

In 2010 Gordon Brown had to hang about in No 10 while the Tories and Lib Dems cobbled together a coalition that could command a parliamentary majority, once that was achieved Brown went to the Palace to say bye bye, then Cameron went to the Palace to say hello and blah, blah, blah.

So Truss can't go to see the monarch and nominate her mate Sir Tufton Bufton on a whim, even dim witted Charlie might ask if Tufton could command a parliamentary majority and without the backing of the Conservative Parliamentary Party the answer would be no. So our gormless monarch would tell our gormless PM to bugger off and come back when there's someone available who can command such a majority, that's what constitutional monarchs do.

Bottom line, if Truss can't command a parliamentary majority she must resign, if she refuses, she will be ousted in Parliament in a vote of no confidence.
The convention seems to have transmogrified to appointing whoever the majority party nominates (with or without the connivance of the departing PM). It still means the monarch could theoretically be faced with a situation where Truss resigns and suggests Coffey for PM (or Tufton Bufton) but the 1922 committee lets it be known (usual channels?) that someone relatively sensible would actually command a majority. It's not that obvious a choice - but it is still a choice that the monarch would make.

Brown hung around trying to get LibDem support for a coalition, but their price was his resignation. Daft now by the LibDems in retrospect, but that's history.

Bottom line is that under our non-constitution (and repeal of the Fixed Term Parliament Act) it is still only a convention that the PM would resign (or ask for dissolution) after losing a no-confidence vote. And the bottom bottom line is that she would win a vote of no-confidence. (turkeys / Christmas). It is entirely conceivable that the monarch asks her to resign.

Tories - wrecking the concept of a constitutional monarchy...
 
The convention seems to have transmogrified to appointing whoever the majority party nominates (with or without the connivance of the departing PM). It still means the monarch could theoretically be faced with a situation where Truss resigns and suggests Coffey for PM (or Tufton Bufton) but the 1922 committee lets it be known (usual channels?) that someone relatively sensible would actually command a majority. It's not that obvious a choice - but it is still a choice that the monarch would make.

Brown hung around trying to get LibDem support for a coalition, but their price was his resignation. Daft now by the LibDems in retrospect, but that's history.

Bottom line is that under our non-constitution (and repeal of the Fixed Term Parliament Act) it is still only a convention that the PM would resign (or ask for dissolution) after losing a no-confidence vote. And the bottom bottom line is that she would win a vote of no-confidence. (turkeys / Christmas). It is entirely conceivable that the monarch asks her to resign.

Tories - wrecking the concept of a constitutional monarchy...

We're going round in circles.

Things have moved on since the early 1960s.

There are procedures in place now, Truss does not have it in her power to nominate her successor, so your scenario does not hold up.

Brown did not hang on hoping the Lib Dems would see sense, it was established early on that the Lib Dems weren't interested in a Lib/Lab whatever. He hung about while the Tories and Lib Dems haggled over cabinets positions, policy and whatnot, in fact if you read Alistair Campbell's account of that time Brown was forever on the blower telling them to get a move on.

MPs return to their constituencies this weekend, expect cabinet resignations early next week, back bench letters piling up at the 1922 and then the men in grey suits will come calling, but before they do there'll be a quiet coup, the Liz Truss libertarian fruitcakes will be told to shut the fuck up and they'll find a nice Tory corporatist and maybe a one nation Tory side kick to face up the post Truss government.

Remember the majority of the Conservative Parliamentary Party wanted Sunak, it was only the shire Tory fruitcakes that tipped it in Truss's favour.

In such a situation Truss will resign because if she doesn't it'll go to a vote of no confidence in Parliament and no PM wants that humiliation.
 
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National average wages are somewhat skewed by the really high wage workers. 33k is neither a poor wage nor a great one. It very much falls into the average bracket.

Given the hours they work, the intense trauma they witness and the insane stress they go through, I'd say it's a poor wage. They absolutely should be on way more given the importance of their roles. I earned that wage just doing social media nonsense in a cushy office dicking about online all day for a brand. Absolutely stress free really. Feel embarrassed to be on the same as a nurse.
 
Given the hours they work, the intense trauma they witness and the insane stress they go through, I'd say it's a poor wage. They absolutely should be on way more given the importance of their roles. I earned that wage just doing social media nonsense in a cushy office dicking about online all day for a brand. Absolutely stress free really. Feel embarrassed to be on the same as a nurse.

It was only when I reached the last word that I realised you were talking about nurses and not Conservative MPs...
 

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