Liz Truss

When Dories is making sense… you know it’s a fucking disaster.


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Dorries is only saying this because, like the rest in the far right of her party, she can feel the rug being pulled from under their feet. Heavens, the woman backed a man who even prorogued Parliament, so warning of the dangers of embracing a dictatorship is rich, even by her low standards.
 


I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the commentators are actually making up some of the quotes they read from their phones, but it has become a staple of modern politics.

Thought the dog turd/escalator one made plenty of sense.
 
There probably should be but there doesn’t necessarily have to be. If there is an early General Election, then it will probably come because the market continues to be unconvinced by what the Government is doing.

Given the current polling there is no chance of a GE.

The problem the Tories have is that reversing Trussonomics two months into her premiership leaves her dead in the water and the pain of this failure in higher mortgage rates is going to feed in over the next year or so and up to the next election.

The public punished the Labour Govt of the seventies and the Tory Govt under Major for disastrous economic positions and history is repeating itself here.

Going forward, where does this leave the Govt‘s fight with the EU and the NI protocol bill? Is a weakened PM and Govt really going to risk trade disputes with the EU and add to the chaos in the run up to an election?

Taxes will go up as Hunt says, but spending cuts? On what? Defence spending is pledged to go up not down. Inflation will eat into budgets. Trade with Europe is still hampered by barriers and extra red tape costs, and we have ongoing energy uncertainty caused by the Ukrainian conflict. We have UK centric issues combined with European and worldwide issues.

The years of cakeism, ideology over realism (Brexit) and inane culture wars are over, and yes, we need a new Govt with a fresh mandate that reflects the issues we face. The chances of us getting one are slim.

Mind you, next time we have a referendum to decide whether we should chop our leg off or not, we may think twice about reaching for the axe.
 
Given the current polling there is no chance of a GE.

The problem the Tories have is that reversing Trussonomics two months into her premiership leaves her dead in the water and the pain of this failure in higher mortgage rates is going to feed in over the next year or so and up to the next election.

The public punished the Labour Govt of the seventies and the Tory Govt under Major for disastrous economic positions and history is repeating itself here.

Going forward, where does this leave the Govt‘s fight with the EU and the NI protocol bill? Is a weakened PM and Govt really going to risk trade disputes with the EU and add to the chaos in the run up to an election?

Taxes will go up as Hunt says, but spending cuts? On what? Defence spending is pledged to go up not down. Inflation will eat into budgets. Trade with Europe is still hampered by barriers and extra red tape costs, and we have ongoing energy uncertainty caused by the Ukrainian conflict. We have UK centric issues combined with European and worldwide issues.

The years of cakeism, ideology over realism (Brexit) and inane culture wars are over, and yes, we need a new Govt with a fresh mandate that reflects the issues we face. The chances of us getting one are slim.

Mind you, next time we have a referendum to decide whether we should chop our leg off or not, we may think twice about reaching for the axe.
Hard to disagree with any of that, and there can be little chance of a trade dispute with the EU. Neither party would welcome that in the circumstance, and the mood on this side of La Manche is that the U.K. doesn’t appear to require any assistance when it comes to doing damage to itself.

Spending cuts will come, even if it ‘just‘ involves keeping budgets at their earlier/current levels and not raising them in line with inflation. Hunt was pressed on the defence pledge this morning and gave the impression that there will be cuts there, too.

I’m still not sure the general public fully understands how tough things are about to come, and the media’s continued omerta on Brexit does not help, but that’s for another thread.
 
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Scary that he is being dodged as a moderate . How far right are the tories??
Very. In the grand scheme of things, Hunt would probably be to the right of what used to be called ‘one-nation Conservatives’; do they even exist now? However, he was considered too ‘left’ to be included in Truss’ original cabinet.

Only Italy has a far-right government, of course…
 
I was listening to Andrew Marr yesterday. And although he started off with saying truss will be gone within weeks, he ended up realising that...

Conservatives know the next election is lost, its now about damage limitation.

They can't foist yet another pm (5 in 6 years) on the voters. They can't oust Truss.

They can't let Truss, inexperienced and clearly out of her depth carry on running the country into the ground.

Instead they will slowly move in the big hitters gove, hunt, raab, mourdent etc, names we "trust", underneath Truss to steady the ship, and hopefully cut the margin of loss at the next GE.

Seems sensible, seems most likely to me. Zombie PM to add to the hordes we've already had.
 

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