Local Elections 2023

Elbow beards said:
Our voting system is bollocks really. I live in tameside, and it's a staunch labour seat, always has been. Now I don't mind that cos I vote labour, well I would if I could be arsed, but there is absolutely no point, especially if I wanted to vote for a different party.
Our entire governing system is based on a few thousand people that live in swing constituencies.
Last time I voted was Brexit, cos my vote meant something.
No suprise there is so much apathy.
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Not being funny but when you say your brexit vote meant something….that’s the only time we have really had a say on something (I.e in or out) and they then spent what 3/4 years plus trying to stop it from happening.
Whether it was a Good or bad decision isn’t really the point, the point is they don’t care about what the people want
They are all the same to me.
 
Tb1981 said:
Not being funny but when you say your brexit vote meant something….that’s the only time we have really had a say on something (I.e in or out) and they then spent what 3/4 years plus trying to stop it from happening.
Whether it was a Good or bad decision isn’t really the point, the point is they don’t care about what the people want
They are all the same to me.
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Ye fair point.
 
Democracy doesn't work, for a long list of reasons. Our particular form of alleged democracy is a particularly egregious version that not only does not work but is actively damaging to the public good.

The challenge is to find an alternative that isn't a form of tyranny and which works for the benefit of the people as a whole. And no, I have no idea what that could be. That is the great problem.
 
Tb1981 said:
Not being funny but when you say your brexit vote meant something….that’s the only time we have really had a say on something (I.e in or out) and they then spent what 3/4 years plus trying to stop it from happening.
Whether it was a Good or bad decision isn’t really the point, the point is they don’t care about what the people want
They are all the same to me.
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While in another thread someone wants politicians to agree together and do the right thing, so that would be stopping Brexit - at least long enough to give the people chance to realise their mistake and vote to do the right thing.

Or to put it another way, are Rees-Mogg and Corbyn the same? Cooper and Braverman?

Allthesamery is just lazy.

Now it's becoming Whatsthepointery.
 
BrianW said:
Democracy doesn't work, for a long list of reasons. Our particular form of alleged democracy is a particularly egregious version that not only does not work but is actively damaging to the public good.

The challenge is to find an alternative that isn't a form of tyranny and which works for the benefit of the people as a whole. And no, I have no idea what that could be. That is the great problem.
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Well, it would have to be a form of proportional representation - maybe a benevolent dictator could decide which system to adopt.
 
Be interesting couple of months in politics between now and the summer recess.
Can the Tories risk going into a general election with Sunak as party leader, or can they risk yet another round of blood letting and internal civil war with yet another leadership campaign with a year to 18 moths from the election.
I have read today a Tory member who was calling Sunak a SOCIALIST and a significant amount of their members won't have forgiven him for his role in removing that clown Bozo from office (despite his ever lowering rating), and a lot of the members wouldn't accept him because off his Indian heritage.
 
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