Lowering the drink driving limit

crooky said:
"The following countries have zero tolerance for driving while under the influence of alcohol for the general population: Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Brazil, Gambia, Hungary, Indonesia, the Islamic Republic of Iran, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Libya, Nepal, Oman, Pakistan, Paraguay, Qatar, Senegal, Slovakia, Tajikistan, Uruguay, Uzbekistan, and Yemen."

Notice the link between most of those countries?

16 out of the 22 countries listed are either Islamic countries or under a dictatorship. Hmm how surprising.
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Muslamic ray-guns at work again?
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Muslamic ray-guns at work again?
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I know what you're trying to say about me and you're frankly out of order.

But the point is that with most of those countries drinking is probably banned full stop for religious reasons anyway. So remove those countries and there isn't an awful lot of countries who have a zero tolerance policy.
 
crooky said:
I know what you're trying to say about me and you're frankly out of order.

But the point is that with most of those countries drinking is probably banned full stop for religious reasons anyway. So remove those countries and there isn't an awful lot of countries who have a zero tolerance policy.
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The proposal is probably to reduce our limit to something like Australia. Not some sort of Sharia law
 
Metal Biker said:
So call a cab, get the bus or have a designated driver.
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For going out properly and knowing you will break the drink drive limit then yes I agree with those things.

But for a spur of the moment drink on a Sunday trip or after work etc. Then a £6 pint becomes a £46 taxi trip, a 4 hour round bus journey etc.
 
A question to all those who are applauding this move, would you agree to a drink/drug testing in the workplace ?
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
The proposal is probably to reduce our limit to something like Australia. Not some sort of Sharia law
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Well read the comments I'm replying to then... They were suggesting a zero alcohol limit.

Australia is one of the worst nanny states going. So no I'd rather not follow their ways.
 
crooky said:
Same here. Clean license since I obtained it about 20 years ago now. Never driven over the limit.

Truth be told I can be a bit of a lightweight when it comes to drinking so a drink outside of meal times in a hot pub can hit surprisingly hard. Unless I'm having a meal and sitting down for a few hours then I'll generally stick to just a half these days.

But I also understand that not everyone is like me and many other people can handle their pints to a far better degree. They don't deserve to be punished for it.
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I assume you've never had someone you know hit by a driver over the limit? It's not nice.
 
chris85mcfc said:
There's got to be some irony in it being a local, but having to drive to have a couple of pints.

Appreciate not everyone lives 'near' their local pub, but my guess is most people can walk if they really need to.
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Well if you want to risk your life walking down unlit country roads with no pavements to have a drink at your local then good luck to you. Local in town,and local in the countryside, just in case you are not aware, are entirely different concepts
 
Blue Mist said:
A question to all those who are applauding this move, would you agree to a drink/drug testing in the workplace ?
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We had random drink and drugs testing since about 2011. Even just walking through the door meant you were intending to work and a computer generated staff list of who was on duty would decide who got tested. The testers were in about once or twice a week initially but that dropped to about once a month. The limit was 0.02 on booze and zero on drugs. If they suspected it, they could take a hair sample for a long term drug reading.
 
HolisticJim said:
You mean the following day?
Obviously if I goto the pub when I've got the car I just drink coke.

The following day - I'm fortunate I work from home and so I wouldn't think it would ever really be an issue for me tbh.
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It is not always about going to work the following day.
 
hampshireblue said:
I assume you've never had someone you know hit by a driver over the limit? It's not nice.
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I haven't thankfully and I'm sorry to hear that. But this isn't about drink driving over the current limit it's about reducing the current limit.

To me the current limits are fine. That's my stance.
 
It's becoming a shit place to live the UK, I'm sick of my life being micro managed by those twats in power and no I don't drink drive.
 
halfmist said:
Well if you want to risk your life walking down unlit country roads with no pavements to have a drink at your local then good luck to you. Local in town,and local in the countryside, just in case you are not aware, are entirely different concepts
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As opposed to risking yours/others lives by having a couple of pints and then driving down unlit country lanes

I wasn't specifically directing it at you, but there will be a large number of people that drive for a couple of pints, who could quite easily walk
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
The proposal is probably to reduce our limit to something like Australia. Not some sort of Sharia law
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If it was a law introduced along those lines it would be more to do with passengers than drink, only one underage girl in a car at one time.
 
Blue Mist said:
A question to all those who are applauding this move, would you agree to a drink/drug testing in the workplace ?
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Completely unrelated situation. An estimated 6000 people every year are killed or injured by drunk driving. One drink is too many. If you need to drive to get to your nearest pub, choose a better way of getting there.
 
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