Lyon (H) - Post Match Thread

Shamelessly stolen from elsewhere but if this is correct then it's clear we have a selection problem.

All negative results

Shakhtar away - no KDB and Silva, Aguero bench
Palace away - no Silva, Aguero bench
Liverpool away - no Silva
Burnley away - no Silva
Basel home CL - no Silva, Aguero or KDB
Liverpool away CL - no Aguero
United home - KDB and Aguero on the bench
Liverpool home CL - Aguero bench
Huddesrfield home - no Aguero
Wolves away - no KDB
Lyon home - no KDB, Aguero bench

The 3 players concerned cannot play every game and their replacements are not good enough.

And those are the players that we can least afford to be missing. This highlights how important they are and how inferior their replacements are.
 
And those are the players that we can least afford to be missing. This highlights how important they are and how inferior their replacements are.

True. Every time I see a team selection without them I am concerned.

Sometimes we get a result but these guys are so important to the team that they must play in the crucial games if they're not injured.

With KDB injured both David and Kun must play. Pep made a big mistake with his selection against Lyon by not playing Kun from the start. Sadly for now Gabby is not an adequate replacement.
 
To me 2 days on it's abundantly apparent that the players were clueless without Pep guiding them. That smacks as the main reason why we lost so easily.
 
To me 2 days on it's abundantly apparent that the players were clueless without Pep guiding them. That smacks as the main reason why we lost so easily.

Undoubtedly that was a big issue, it shows how important him being on the touch line is. However, the team selection and positional placement was crackers. How many games did Pep get? Just the one?
 
Undoubtedly that was a big issue, it shows how important him being on the touch line is. However, the team selection and positional placement was crackers. How many games did Pep get? Just the one?

Expect more touchline bans for Pep going forward
 
im amazed at how many wanted Aguero to start even though him limped off halfway through game before. still we wont burn our players out
 
Gundogon needs to be rotated with some of the fans ,I'm sure there are thousands who can pass it back to the man who passed it to him, lose it, get ambushed regularly, .never win a header,pull out of every tackle and run slower than a steamroller. What Pep sees in him I cant for the life of me understand. Give Foden a chance , if he does anything at all it will be an improvement.
If the transfer window was open all season I would have sold him the day after the match. Adds nothing and hasn't done so since his long injury here. I feel fr the guy on a personal level but he just isn't good enough at any particular thing to be in our team.
 
True. Every time I see a team selection without them I am concerned.

Sometimes we get a result but these guys are so important to the team that they must play in the crucial games if they're not injured.

With KDB injured both David and Kun must play. Pep made a big mistake with his selection against Lyon by not playing Kun from the start. Sadly for now Gabby is not an adequate replacement.
The adequare replacement was playing for Lyon, stealing the ball off Fernandinho and scoring the goal.
 
And those are the players that we can least afford to be missing. This highlights how important they are and how inferior their replacements are.
Ok so Gundogan started in all except 2 of those performances (I looked it up myself because everyone in England is asleep and this is the kind of thing I do on my Friday nights). Gundogan also started in our 2 draws in the league cup last season that we only one on penalties and our loss to Wigan in the FA Cup.

Let that sink in. In our most successful period ever, 1 player has started in virtually all our poorest results. People are going to think I'm on a character assassination based on my recent posts but I defended Gundogan for a long time and I really do feel for him as a person and what he has had to go through with injuries. Something just snapped in me over the last 2 matches though seeing him come on against Fulham in the game that was already at walking pace and still look slow and then his useless performance against Lyon. It's not that he does anything really badly it's that he really just doesn't ADD anything, anything at all. Try Zinchenko, try Foden, try anyone else but Gundogan is not good enough, he hasn't been for some time and Pep needs to see it. I hope the Lyon game opened his eyes but I doubt it.
 

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