Madeleine McCann

[gordondaviesmoustache]

What's the twist?

The egg is a duck egg and the 'bacon' is well done Serrano ham and broken up into small bits and sprinkled on the top. Chips are patatas bravas.

It's fucking mint!

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

The egg is a duck egg and the 'bacon' is well done Serrano ham and broken up into small bits and sprinkled on the top.

It's fucking mint!

Sounds lovely

 

[tonea2003]

They could.

There were trees and a plastic sheet but the view also included part of the door which they would have seen, should it of opened.

the point is mate they didn't, a gross error of judgement which will affect them for the rest of their lives, they felt it was more important to have a few bevvies than to have their pesky kids getting in the way
why they couldn't have had them all in their buggies asleep by the side of them i'll never know. that's what we always did

 

[Ban-jani]

I wish people would stop conjugating the verb "to of".

Grammar Nazi!

I’m tired.

 

[Ban-jani]

the point is mate they didn't, a gross error of judgement which will affect them for the rest of their lives, they felt it was more important to have a few bevvies than to have their pesky kids getting in the way
why they couldn't have had them all in their buggies asleep by the side of them i'll never know. that's what we always did

They didn’t feel bevvies were more important - they probably felt the kids were perfectly safe and were unaware an abduction was being planned.

That’s my main point.

I don’t believe the thought “sod the kids” entered their heads.

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

They didn’t feel bevvies were more important - they probably felt the kids were perfectly safe and were unaware an abduction was being planned.

That’s my main point.

I don’t believe the thought “sod the kids” entered their heads.

See the issue then becomes is that they were leaving them in a day crèche as well. One would understandably have the impression that the kids were an inconvenience to them at best

 

[Ban-jani]

See the issue then becomes is that they were leaving them in a day crèche as well. One would understandably have the impression that the kids were an inconvenience to them at best

For a period of the day.

It wasn’t all day - every day I don’t believe.

The crèche was designed for the kids enjoyment too.

Several other witnesses left their kids in the same crèche as it was good for playing with other kids.

The parents would often hang around and watch the crèche too.

 

[M18CTID]

One of my earliest memories was going to Blackpool with mum and dad for the weekend and on the Saturday night they went downstairs for a meal and left me alone in the room. I must have been about Maddie’s age, possibly a bit older. My brother (who is four years younger) wasn’t there. Mum might have been pregnant with him iirc.

I got up in the middle of the night (when they were downstairs) went into the corridor, where this old bird asked me if I was lost. I lied and said yes (not sure why). She took me downstairs to the bar, where her husband was and she bought me a drink (coke) and then my folks turned up a few minutes later. Got a right bollocking off my mum. It could have ended up very differently.

My mum and dad are both brilliant parents. Just because someone has failed to properly evaluate risk when it comes to their kids, doesn't mean they are otherwise shit parents or ‘bad’ people. People are complicated and can simply fuck up without any malign intent.

I think there's a significant difference between what happened to you and the McCann situation to be honest. Firstly, I doubt your parents did it night after night while you were on holiday. Secondly, and this is quite important IMO, we're talking 2 totally different eras. Way back then, there wasn't anything like the same wall to wall publicity about paedophiles that you get now. Sure, they still existed and kids still got abducted, plus we were told by our parents "not to talk to strangers", but the general perception - rightly or wrongly - was that it was an altogether more innocent time.

What happened to Maddie happened in 2007, not 1977, and they (the McCanns) would've had to have been living on another planet not to be aware of the increased publicity surrounding paedophiles as time has gone on, meaning that leaving your kids alone isn't particularly acceptable in this day and age. (That's aside from all the other potential pitfalls around leaving kids so young on their own in terms of accidents, etc). Same goes for the analogy the blue phantom posted about smoking in cars with kids in. It might've gone on a lot back in the 70's but it's nowhere near as commonplace these days.

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

For a period of the day.

It wasn’t all day - every day I don’t believe.

The crèche was designed for the kids enjoyment too.

Several other witnesses left their kids in the same crèche as it was good for playing with other kids.

The parents would often hang around and watch the crèche too.

I would have to look into it in more detail but that's definitely not the impression I was given. Combine leaving them in a day crèche, with leaving them in the apartment every night, I don't really see how your can swing that the kids were an important part of their holiday

 

[Ban-jani]

I would have to look into it in more detail but that's definitely not the impression I was given. Combine leaving them in a day crèche, with leaving them in the apartment every night, I don't really see how your can swing that the kids were an important part of their holiday

There has been a fair amount of footage and pictures of Maddie on that holiday used in both the documentaries and by the police/media.

More so than I can ever remember my family holidays having.

I’m not saying this is definitive proof they were excellent parents all week, just that they wouldn’t have had so many pictures/videos if they just ditched them 24/7.