Perhaps, but a big difference between the UK system and small town American criminal justice is that many cases wouldn't even get to trial in the UK without the CPS deciding there's a semi-reasonable chance of the prosecutors obtaining a conviction. You don't get anything like the same sort of pre-trial consideration in small town US.The police over here are only arsed about conviction rates as well. Regardless of the language they use. Cops anywhere are never about truth and justice. They rely on conviction rates to pretend they are doing a job protecting society. Never trust a copper.
Absolutely brilliant documentary. So frustrating to watch. Also highlights the ineffective justice system. How Prosecutors and courts can submit and leave out anything they please.
I'm 2 hours in so will leave my full opinion on events until the full 10 hours has been watched.
But as it stands, I can safely say I am appalled by the local Police department that covered up so many lies, amongst the ineptitude and evil intention of some of its staff.
This documentary has gone viral, even 'anonymous' have released a statement regarding it. Thousands have signed a petition for the release of Steven Avery. I'd say watch this space on this one...
There were so many inconsistencies that I couldn't actually believe a rational human being would vote that beyond a reasonable doubt he was guilty. The woman's car being found so easily in his lot, no blood evidence in that fucking shed, evidence being found months afterwards.....shocking. Fuck pissing the police off in America.Just finished it, do you actually think he did it? I can't see it in him personally, I think he's too thick to try and get away with it and it's one long inconsistent story throughout.
The person I really feel sorry for is his mum, she went through the 18 years of her son being wrongfully inprisioned, then the ordeal of the Theresa Hallbach case, the hate mail, the press hounding her everytime she left to go places, she looked troubled by the end.
After ribbing malg earlier in the thread about this lasting 10 hours, I've started watching it and have to say it's fascinating. Like you, I'm only 2 hours in and while there looks to be compelling evidence against him regarding the murder, it seems all too convenient for my liking. DNA evidence saw his rape conviction rightfully quashed, and suddenly he's charged with a murder at the same time he's filing a $36 million lawsuit for the wrongful rape conviction. It's got stitch up written all over it!
Leaves out loads of information the **** was as guilty as sin
There were so many inconsistencies that I couldn't actually believe a rational human being would vote that beyond a reasonable doubt he was guilty. The woman's car being found so easily in his lot, no blood evidence in that fucking shed, evidence being found months afterwards.....shocking. Fuck pissing the police off in America.
I'm 5 hours in now mate, I won't ruin it for you but by God it only gets worse. There's 3 members of that Police force that have liar written on their forehead.
Any **** that pours petrol over a cat and throws it in a bonfire deserves a horrible lifeNonsense, it's probably the most comprehensive trial documentary that has ever hit public consciousness.
In fact the comprehensiveness of the show is the number one trait given to it from reviewers and legal experts all over the place.
The fact that Ken Kratz, who was repeatedly offered to give interviews to the series and refused every time, has now come out after it has shed a bad light on him with this "left out evidence" is ridiculous and he cannot seem to keep his story straight about what that evidence is.
Even if that were true, this case is absolutely littered with reasonable doubt. It's all over the place and touches every single piece of physical evidence the prosecution had to offer. Unfortunately, this case highlights the limitations of the jury system (especially in small, backwards towns like this) but he'd have stood even less chance with that judge making the decision so I guess it's the lesser of two evils.Leaves out loads of information the **** was as guilty as sin
Even if that were true, this case is absolutely littered with reasonable doubt. It's all over the place and touches every single piece of physical evidence the prosecution had to offer. Unfortunately, this case highlights the limitations of the jury system (especially in small, backwards towns like this) but he'd have stood even less chance with that judge making the decision so I guess it's the lesser of two evils.
I found myself getting more and more angry as the show went on, culminating in the truly shocking behaviour of the police, investigators and even his own defence team in securing Brendan Dassey's confession. In fact, criminal charges should be brought against the main players involved in that, particularly Len Kachinsky, Michael O'Kelly, Tom Fassbender and Mark Wiegert. They broke laws left, right and centre to get that confession. How it was then admissable in court I will never know.
Even if they were both guilty, I'd still be utterly dismayed by the prosecution's behaviour in these two cases, because when such unlawful behaviour is just blindly accepted with a dismissive wave of the hand, the truly innocent stand absolutely no chance. And that's something that should scare everyone.