Manchester City are Champions of England for the 7th time!

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FantasyIreland said:
But not very relevant to the celebratory thread.
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On the contrary.

The Anfield Wrap thought it appropriate, the day after we won the title, to drive over to Manchester and cast Utd and City as clubs in turmoil.

That was no coincidence, the Anfield Wrap do their match previews in Merseyside and they don't hang around stadiums interviewing fans before the game, or after, and never a day in advance and never rival fans.

There's no doubt that sections of Utd's fan base are pissed off, but not for the reasons being pitched by them.

But City? Anyone hand on heart think we're a fan base in turmoil? Well the Anfield Wrap found someone to dampen our celebratory mood. Go back to the video, listen to the Scouser's intro to the bit on City.

Tell me he wasn't pitching that we'd sold our soul for silverware.
 
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The perfect fumble said:
On the contrary.

The Anfield Wrap thought it appropriate, the day after we won the title, to drive over to Manchester and cast Utd and City as clubs in turmoil.

That was no coincidence, the Anfield Wrap do their match previews in Merseyside and they don't hang around stadiums interviewing fans before the game, or after, and never a day in advance and never rival fans.

There's no doubt that sections of Utd's fan base are pissed off, but not for the reasons being pitched by them.

But City? Anyone hand on heart think we're a fan base in turmoil? Well the Anfield Wrap found someone to dampen our celebratory mood. Go back to the video, listen to the Scouser's intro to the bit on City.

Tell me he wasn't pitching that we'd sold our soul for silverware.
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I was talking from an upbeat POV,politics tend to ruin such.
 
The scene,Waitrose,Wilmslow,9am,the freezer aisle,me diving into the ice cream section(Hagen Dazs),further down a chap in the Rashford section(fish fingers)turns him in a City jacket,me City scarf,laughter a few Ole,Ole,Champions whilst dancing round our trollies,when stage left a tidy young lady appeared 50ish tells us to “grow up”I,m 75,my new pal was older,more laughter.A chat about the present squad,Ruben,Phil,Kev.Then as we Oldens do we reminisce Bert,Big Dave,Ken Barnes.My ice cream was melting,we said our goodbyes him for a medical,Nothing serious say I no says he .He wanted to check he was fit enough to tear into the rags in his local when the pubs re-Open,then on a somber note “if they are still with us”we shook hands and departed him to a ghetto in Alderly Edge,me to my palacial home Sharston.Maybe see you next week George.
 
KS55 said:
The theme of yesterday's article in the Times reflected what Klopp said about us the other day: "They will not stop".
Pep talked about how the great champions, in the shower immediately after winning a trophy , were already thinking about the next one.
Mansour, in his message of congratulations, hoped it would be a catalyst for many more trophies.
The writer said our execs were "fiercely ambitious" and he called City "a relentless winning machine".
Sitting in my kitchen just now, the enormity of what we had already achieved and what we might achieve in the next decade hit me like an express train.
Tears streaming down my face, daft old man! What a time to be a blue.
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Give over, you soppy old ****.










You're going to start everybody off.
 
The perfect fumble said:
You sound like a young man, I don't mean that as a put down, but there is a certainty about your viewpoint which is the hallmark of youth.

I used to equip hospitals, mostly neonatal units in the Middle East and Africa but I've also been involved in fair trade with the developing world. I've lived in Nigeria for three years, was thirty years involved in export, mostly in the third world, I've been blessed with a chance to experience the world in a way most lads from Lower Broughton could only dream of.

I've seen grinding poverty that you can't imagine and I've seen despots, chancers and shysters screwing their country for all they're worth, but I've also seen that the things that unite us are greater than those that divide us.

Of all the places I've visited the UAE is one of the most enlightened. Arabs regularly put it at the top of the list of the most desirable places to live. 1.2 million Brits visited in 2019, 250,000 live there, it's the preferred destination for guest workers and unlike Saudi Arabia there are no religious police. I first went there nearly 40 years ago and I've seen for myself the country become increasingly more and more progressive. Believe me knowing how deeply conservative Emiratis were when I first started going there in the 80s, that can only be down to its leaders.

Judging most of North Africa and the Middle East through the prism of western values is a fools game, it assumes that western values and western democracy is the gold standard against which countries succeed or fail, but we know from the events of the last twenty years that when the hard men and monarchs fold and elections called, they result, almost without exception, with the triumph of religious based parties that are even less "progressive" than the despots they replaced.

To understand how the oil rich Gulf states work think of old time Chicago gangsters, who kept disruption and violence to a minimum because it was bad for business, by carving out territories and responsibilities. The show was kept on the road because everyone had a piece of the cake. It's the same in the Gulf, the ruling families, the people, the mullahs, all with competing interests, keep things rolling along because they are all stakeholders, they have more to lose than gain if the whole edifice crumbles.

What that means is that change is sometimes glacial, keeping all factions happy means that conservative elements in society must be accommodated to keep them on board, even if this can be frustrating for the others. Given the speed with which the UAE has moved towards what we would consider a liberal society these last few decades, tells me that "progressive" elements within the ruling hierarchy have been willing to push things to their limits. From what I've seen and read about our owners they are in the vanguard of that push and as such should be lauded.

David is clearly a well liked lad in here, hence the deleted posts and I've no doubt we have a lot in common politically, but he wittingly played a part in a hatchet job on our owners they do not deserve. Nobody could come away from that video believing he was speaking only for himself.

Notwithstanding whether the ethics, morals, politics of owners of football clubs is a "thing", because it never used to be when football clubs were owned by white mill owners who screwed their workers, screwed the chamber maid and beat their wives, and it doesn't seem to be a "thing" when clubs are owned by Brits or Americans, Sheikh Mansour and Abu Dhabi do not deserve to be cast as the heinous villains they're made out to be, and the "progress" the UAE has made these last few decades is testimony to that.
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Enjoyed reading your perspective on it, thanks.
 
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