Manchester City - tactical discussion

[kunaguero10]

I just feel as though we are missing another big man in the midfield especially cause yaya can't be arsed in Europe. I don't know. I could be wrong

That is totally unfair on Yaya, who I thought looked hungry and 'on it' last night.

 

[K10&S21]

That is totally unfair on Yaya, who I thought looked hungry and 'on it' last night.

nope yaya is one of our problems have u ever seen him play a first time ball into runners during transition. he just wants to keep the ball to himself and let the opponent recover their shape and then play on his leisurely pace. it was embarrassing that he got the ball nicked from the strikers who closed him down from behind, maybe thats how he loves to paly on fifa as well.

 

[blue city199]

nope yaya is one of our problems have u ever seen him play a first time ball into runners during transition. he just wants to keep the ball to himself and let the opponent recover their shape and then play on his leisurely pace. it was embarrassing that he got the ball nicked from the strikers who closed him down from behind, maybe thats how he loves to paly on fifa as well.

Yesterday ya ya was good but had to come deep because both the centre backs weren't able come out and play balls into the midfield .
The problem for us the in games like today Pellegrini doesn’t know how to get his team functioning at this level .

 

[MC ID]

nope yaya is one of our problems have u ever seen him play a first time ball into runners during transition. he just wants to keep the ball to himself and let the opponent recover their shape and then play on his leisurely pace. it was embarrassing that he got the ball nicked from the strikers who closed him down from behind, maybe thats how he loves to paly on fifa as well.

in fairness so do Nasri and Silva. The three of them together on the pitch really causes us problems in Europe because they combined really slow the play down to a snails pace, was excited when De Bruyne came on, was much faster passing.

 

[blue city199]

What I don't understand is why the first teams does not plays like the youth teams I.e.

We play out of the back where both the centre backs spilt and one of the holding midfielders drops deep and others players move accordingly and other important feature is how we press from top .

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Sorry mate cannot agree. Irrespective of what tactics, formations or player selection there will be someone caling him out. We have done pretty good under his management and because we lose a game, these threads start.

Messing about with selections for no apparent reason is a statement made by those who don't necessarily have all the facts as to why. I have no idea why he set us up last night like he did, but I acknowledge he is best placed to do that.

I also suspect that had we put our good chances away last night, this debate wouldn't be happening.

What happened last night was due to poor finishing only.

Dead right. 2-0 up at least at HT had the finishing been as clinical as Juve's. Nowt to do wi' tactics. When a player stuffs a good chance to put your team ahead, it's got precious little to do with tactics. Had those gone in, and we had won, as we should have done, Pellers would have been applauded on here as having the tactical acumen to have engineered (see what I did there?) the victory! As it is, sloppy finishing as opposed to clinical finishing was the sole difference.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Dead right. 2-0 up at least at HT had the finishing been as clinical as Juve's. Nowt to do wi' tactics. When a player stuffs a good chance to put your team ahead, it's got precious little to do with tactics. Had those gone in, and we had won, as we should have done, Pellers would have been applauded on here as having the tactical acumen to have engineered (see what I did there?) the victory! As it is, sloppy finishing as opposed to clinical finishing was the sole difference.

Totally agree. For me the only thing he got wrong was not playing De Bruyne. Possibly even in place of Sterling who is very inexperienced at this level. He may have been a better option off the bench. Juventus were good too. Have to give them some credit. Very well organised and the masters of killing the game once they scored. We are maybe a bit naive in that respect. Maybe Pellegrini could have brought on a defensive minded player at 1-0 up. Tactically he has been good this season though and much better than last when he just wouldn't learn.

 

[City Raider]

Dead right. 2-0 up at least at HT had the finishing been as clinical as Juve's. Nowt to do wi' tactics. When a player stuffs a good chance to put your team ahead, it's got precious little to do with tactics. Had those gone in, and we had won, as we should have done, Pellers would have been applauded on here as having the tactical acumen to have engineered (see what I did there?) the victory! As it is, sloppy finishing as opposed to clinical finishing was the sole difference.

Pretty much agree. Defeats drag us into analysis that just wouldn't take place had Bony either squared it to Sterling or passed it into the net instead of putting his foot through it. The same with the other choices our forwards made at crucial moments.

 

[andrewmswift]

Playing either Nasri or Silva on the wing (which only ever happens if they're both playing, i.e., don't play them together) is a mistake in Europe. We can get away with it domestically at times, but never in CL. We need that workrate closing down the flanks from Navas/KDB on the right and Sterling on the left.

 

[andrewmswift]

I'll go so far as to say that Yaya has wrongfully caught slack on here for years in CL games when our structural problem is Nasri/Silva.