Mancini Breaking News Part 4

[manimanc]

I think you are underestimating Pellegrini, and no I dont think there are any smokescreens

But we might need a Plan B

Only if he reads this thread

Nah he might stay too long!!!

 

[samharris]

Rach is sporting a Towel...just a towel mind you.

Bath or hand towel?

Head towel ;)

Tea towel.. now carry on washing up Rach..then do the ironing ;)

 

[Eccles Blue]

Rach is sporting a Towel...just a towel mind you.

Bath or hand towel?

Head towel ;)

Crikey, thank goodness I'm a woman and not that bothered!! :-)

Not really sure why I asked the question in the first place, this thread must definitely be getting to me!!

 

[blueinsa]

No talks with Pellegrini is absolute bollox.

Deals for players and managers are negotiated and finalised months in advance.

Contracts and rules dictate a stance of we havnt spoke and no deal discussed but we all no thats just not the reality.

The details of this deal will be announced when everyone is good and ready to announce it, simple and until that time, expect all parties to act plain dumb!

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

What an absolute load of bollocks.

If Vicky Kloss' job is "Director of communication" then she is responsible for the clubs dealings with the press. It is her direct responsibility to manage the press and what is written about us, in the best interests of the club.

It was without doubt in the best interests of the club for these reports of Mancini's sacking to be squashed before the cup final, to allow everyone to focus fully on the job at hand - winning the trophy.

She decided to remain silent, and has left the manager as a dead man walking. It has had a huge affect on the mood of Mancini himself, his staff, the players, and the fans.

Even if she know he's getting sacked, it would have been very easy to come out with a press release on the morning of the game saying "Roberto Mancini remains the manager of Manchester City, and reports that he has been sacked are entirely false. Roberto and the club are completely focused on winning our 3rd major trophy under his stewardship." No lying there.

Slergie told the pres last week he "Wouldn't be walking away in the forseeable future" only to announce his retirement 3 days later. The press haven't mentioned it, because who gives a fuck. He did what was best for the club - keeping them focused on winning football matches. Fuck it if the press feel aggrieved.

And regards to it being "all a bit rushed, they didn't have time on cup final morning" well I'm afraid that's the nature of PR in 2013. With 24 hour news and social media, you have to react on a minute by minute basis now. I knew about these reports the night before the game, and even started a thread saying they should come out first thing in the morning with a press release. Fuck all happened and the rest is history.

She's come from working for the police, got the job at City under an old regime, "because no one else was doing it". She's completely out of her depth. The way the press report about this club is appalling, and she's responsible for managing that. We need someone with experience of working for a big multinational, she's not good enough.

I don't need any instruction on it thanks!

In fact, the only bollocks seems to be from you.

You clearly know nothing about Vicky Kloss that's for sure.

You make her sound like a bobby pounding the beat!

She is more than qualified and like I state, she is not a press officer.

She is responsible for corporate communications and has been fast-tracked up the ladder by Abu Dhabi, as a result of her work.

Kloss is not the go to person these days for the press.

Why not stick you neck on the line and tell us what has actually happened and who is coming in. Is it Pellegrini 100% because the reports from him today are pretty adamant he has no deal with City.

What difference would that make, really mate?

I've stated for months Mancini was out at the end of the season and also stated my reasons why I believed Pellegrini would be our next manager.

People choose to rightly believe what they want.

Pellegrini is the only candidate on the radar and there would have to be some very unwelcome twists in the script to change things now.

 

[mackenzie]

Dont like the way Mancini is getting the axe. If he will facing utter questions about his sacking tomorrow (again) when we play Reading we have some stupid people in the board for sure.

Pellegrini:

He is a good coach, dont really know him tho. Did well as an underdog with Villarreal and Malaga. Doing well with underdogs is one thing, being in the spotlight under immense pressure to bring trophies is another. Villarreal and Malaga did not care about trophies with Pellegrini. CL place was enough for them and the good CL runs were just extra performances. They did not expect that.
Here that will be expected. And league title as well.

I see a very good chance of City not being Champions if we dont make many big changes in the squad.
New CM, winger(s), striker is needed, also we have to sort out the CB's, as Kolo/Lescott probably going.

I really expect some troubles in squad vs any new coach because some of the players think it is enough what they were doing for months.

We had many moments when the players had no discipline. Plyers not helping out each other, not running back, Yaya, Silva, Nasri were doing this many times in many matches. We need a manager that puts them into their places. Not sure they will like it. Can see some unexpected transfer requests. But it has to happen for the team.

When I see at the play of Dortmund or Bayern I see a lot of discipline. Even Robben who can be lazy worked his ass off vs. Barca just like Ribery. These are extra creative players working for their teams also creating chances.

Similiar at Dortmund, working, moving together as a team a lot. With pace, passion.

We didnt have much pace since 18 months, and we looked like shit many times.
Kind of unacceptable that with star players like Silva, Nasri, Tevez, Dzeko, Agüero and Yaya we scored less goals than Arsenal or Tottenham.
They have Walcott and Giroud and Adebayor and Defoe. Still we cannot score lot more goals this season. Unacceptable.

Firing Mancini maybe is needed, the way it happens is a joke, also giving him 5 year contract last season seems an even bigger joke now.
Just a little bit smaller joke than Pardews 8 year deal.

Makes you wonder if the 5 year contract changed things (as in Mancini got a bit too big for his boots).

 

[bluealf]

If someone isn't performing, from the playing staff to the tea lady, then he has the right to criticize in whatever way he feels fit.

Ferguson has criticized everyone at United over the years and not only gotten away with it.

Let me put it this way.. A fucking PR executive isn't going to win us the Premier League next season.. so see ya Vicky love. The manager should be number 1.

I totally agree he can criticize who he wants, only try doing it in private or at a meeting or over a cup of tea. No I don't think I will thanks I will do it in press in public. Classless. As for Vicky not winning it next year well it looks like your beloved won't be either so see ya too

a press conference where she was in attendance

shirley it was her job to keep/ steer the questions on track

Bobby should never have had to face those questions

''You said you don’t understand why the club haven’t stopped the reports?''

''Would you be happy to go to New York without knowing if you will keep your job?''

''But it would be ridiculous to sack you, wouldn’t it?''

''There were the same reports at Inter, weren’t there?''

''Why haven’t you asked anyone at City to stop these stories?''

''These stories don’t help though, do they?''

''Were the players you signed last summer your players or did someone buy them for you''

''Did you sign those players because they were the only ones left?''

''You said Vicky should stop these rumours but she can only do that if someone on the board tells her to?''

''Arsene Wenger hasn’t won a trophy for eight years, David Moyes has never won a trophy. Why are you in this situation?''

''But you can’t blame Vicky?''

''You’re still popular with the fans, do you think that will help you keep your job?''
etc etc

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mancini-unleashes-wrath-citys-pr-3661001" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... pr-3661001</a>


What sort of fucking questions are these to be left unchallenged by the chief communications officer? were these sanctioned in advance? if not why not? why did she not step in and stop the awkward questions as she was stood there listening? What choice did he have but to respond the way he did when he was clearly under attack?!?!

He has done nothing wrong here in my eyes. Can you imagine these questions being allowed at certain other clubs?

The club, or an individual (s), seem to have purposely fed him to the lions.

He does not deserve that.

I agree with this, some of the questions he has had to face on a weekly basis have been frankly disgusting and a man who finally broke our duck should garner a little respect for it.

Now if they wanted to change the manager fair enough but they should not have let the week before the cup final turn into an absolute farce, they have learned nothing since the sacking of Hughes in this regard.

 

[rastus]

Is this pell guy being used as a smokescreen while we go for a bigger target like Jose ?

I think you are underestimating Pellegrini, and no I dont think there are any smokescreens

Ah the good old football fan smokescreen.

If you think we could get the whole world thinking we're hiring Pellegrini and do the old switcheroo with the manager of Madrid you're alarm is probably due to go off any minute now.

But Pellegrina denied anything to do with City, so smoke screen it is. Unless its a reverse smoke screen which is hes telling the truth.
In that case Bentez it is

 

[Keith Moon]

Try and put yourself in Vicky Kloss' stiletto's for a second.

Firstly, the initial leak does not come out if City, they are playing catch-up in the team hotel on the morning of a Cup Final.

In addition, are we then expected to lie to the wider media, the fans and Mancini, by making a rod for our own backs prior to kick off, knowing it will come back to haunt us?

Mancini has been a dead man walking for months, but I'm certain the club wanted to conclude it in the right manner at the end of the season.

Kloss walks in to Mancini already holding court in a small ante room.

How embarrassed would you feel to be then brought into the equation.

Subsequently, why would you then even want to go out on a limb for someone who publicly called you a cnut?

It comes to something when the journos present felt the need to step in and defend the person who is supposed to keep them in check.

There have been many times this season when Mancini goes off message and it turns into a bigger story that it should have been.

His Monaco revelations, United being luckyk, Nkkasri/wanting to punch him.

You can't interject when he is the instigator, you only undermine him by pulling him up.

The job is to pull up journos not the manager.

What an absolute load of bollocks.

If Vicky Kloss' job is "Director of communication" then she is responsible for the clubs dealings with the press. It is her direct responsibility to manage the press and what is written about us, in the best interests of the club.

It was without doubt in the best interests of the club for these reports of Mancini's sacking to be squashed before the cup final, to allow everyone to focus fully on the job at hand - winning the trophy.

She decided to remain silent, and has left the manager as a dead man walking. It has had a huge affect on the mood of Mancini himself, his staff, the players, and the fans.

Even if she know he's getting sacked, it would have been very easy to come out with a press release on the morning of the game saying "Roberto Mancini remains the manager of Manchester City, and reports that he has been sacked are entirely false. Roberto and the club are completely focused on winning our 3rd major trophy under his stewardship." No lying there.

Slergie told the pres last week he "Wouldn't be walking away in the forseeable future" only to announce his retirement 3 days later. The press haven't mentioned it, because who gives a fuck. He did what was best for the club - keeping them focused on winning football matches. Fuck it if the press feel aggrieved.

And regards to it being "all a bit rushed, they didn't have time on cup final morning" well I'm afraid that's the nature of PR in 2013. With 24 hour news and social media, you have to react on a minute by minute basis now. I knew about these reports the night before the game, and even started a thread saying they should come out first thing in the morning with a press release. Fuck all happened and the rest is history.

She's come from working for the police, got the job at City under an old regime, "because no one else was doing it". She's completely out of her depth. The way the press report about this club is appalling, and she's responsible for managing that. We need someone with experience of working for a big multinational, she's not good enough.

I don't need any instruction on it thanks!

In fact, the only bollocks seems to be from you.

You clearly know nothing about Vicky Kloss that's for sure.

You make her sound like a bobby pounding the beat!

She is more than qualified and like I state, she is not a press officer.

She is responsible for corporate communications and has been fast-tracked up the ladder by Abu Dhabi, as a result of her work.

Kloss is not the go to person these days for the press.

The thing is that a press officer in Italy would have protected Mancini all the way to San José. Even if they knew he would be sacked they would deny this until the second they sent out the "thank you and goodbye" PM.

 

[Dextersmate]

No talks with Pellegrini is absolute bollox.

Deals for players and managers are negotiated and finalised months in advance.

Contracts and rules dictate a stance of we havnt spoke and no deal discussed but we all no thats just not the reality.

The details of this deal will be announced when everyone is good and ready to announce it, simple and until that time, expect all parties to act plain dumb!

Think all parties are acting plain dumb.