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Pigeonho said:
The_Mo said:
dave_blue12 said:
The coach doesn't decide on transfers at Real Madrid - the President does
So.....if the sheikh bought KAKA, Ronaldo, Alonso and Benzema, you would be ok with Bobby Manc not winning ONE trophy in the whole season?
It's been reported that Madrid tallied a record points total that season, but unfortunately for them Barca beat that total. There's not alot you can do is there in that situation? He did the best his team could do, creating a record along the way. Another team bettered that.
Do you know who eliminated Madrid from the Champions League and the King's cup that season?
Clue: It wasn't Barca!
 
BoyBlue_1985 said:
Pigeonho said:
The_Mo said:
So.....if the sheikh bought KAKA, Ronaldo, Alonso and Benzema, you would be ok with Bobby Manc not winning ONE trophy in the whole season?
It's been reported that Madrid tallied a record points total that season, but unfortunately for them Barca beat that total. There's not alot you can do is there in that situation? He did the best his team could do, creating a record along the way. Another team bettered that.
Yes that was also the greatest team pretty much ever as well
Apart from milan in the late 80's early 90's..
 
jankos78 said:
waspish said:
Cheadle Blue said:
Pelligrini might be the best motivator in the world, but if he can't speak a word of the queens, it doesn't mean diddly shit


Speaks better English than Mancini Apparently...


No he doesn't , you tube him and you will see , also spend over 200 millions in Real Madrid and won ....... Nothing !!!! Bad choice he is , that's my opinion :-)

What a fucking bad wum,mate.I suggest you look at more yt clips.His English is superb.
 
The_Mo said:
dave_blue12 said:
The coach doesn't decide on transfers at Real Madrid - the President does
So.....if the sheikh bought KAKA, Ronaldo, Alonso and Benzema, you would be ok with Bobby Manc not winning ONE trophy in the whole season?


If you're up against the best club team of all time at their prime what can you do, he got 96 league points.

If the sheikh did it here and we didn't win anything i would be majorly pissed off they had a far , far superior level of competition at the top.
 
waspish said:
jankos78 said:
waspish said:
Speaks better English than Mancini Apparently...


No he doesn't , you tube him and you will see , also spend over 200 millions in Real Madrid and won ....... Nothing !!!! Bad choice he is , that's my opinion :-)

Personally I agree Pellegrini has win nowt and if rather have an upgrade than a downgrade!

Regarding Pellegrini spending 200m it was the club who Bought those players after being upstaged the previous season by Barcelona!
Any manager is an upgrade on Mancini now that he has lost the dressing room. It's amazing that the professionalism of the players has held it together for so long

Read this then tell me City can continue under Mancini http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...-news/final-straw-for-manchester-city-3661765

The 2013 final will go down in FA Cup history as a fairy tale. But for City, it was just Grimm. And with Roberto Mancini intent on casting himself as the ogre, a day which began in bright expectation of a silver-laden end to the season ended in recrimination, rumour and regret for the Blues.

No-one should take away the credit due to Wigan. Even the most flint-hearted of Blues should be able to see why their victory was a popular one.

A club which hauled itself from the Northern Premier League to a place at the top table in just 27 years, and then shocked the world by beating the multi-millionaires, deserves respect. It is to the enormous credit of the City fans that many thousands remained behind after the whistle to applaud Wigan’s players as they went up to lift the Cup.

The fact the only goal was scored by the honest, journeyman footballer Ben Watson – who was told six months ago that a broken leg had ended his season – just adds to the feelgood factor, if you are not a Blue. And anyone who has met Wigan boss Roberto Martinez could not help but be pleased for him – a talented manager who oozes class, warmth and honesty.

The City camp was a sharp contrast, and the blue-and-white ticker tape which rained down on Wembley, as well as being a celebration of the Latics’ achievement, was also an apt metaphor for Mancini’s men.

By the end of the day, it felt like the club had been put through the shredder, and that no amount of sticky tape will bind it together again.

The news filtering through from the dressing room area before kick-off had painted Mancini as the pantomime villain before the match had even begun. On at least two occasions in recent weeks Mancini had said he would stick with Costel Pantilimon for the final, having played him in all of the earlier rounds.

He had told Pantilimon himself that he would play, and the Romanian had sat down with the media three days before the final to speak of his pride, but also to say it may be his last game for the club.

City sources suggest it was not that revelation which cost Pantilimon his place, but rather Mancini’s hard-nosed pragmatism – he simply decided, in the end, to pick his strongest team.

It appeared cruel, and reinforced the Italian’s reputation as someone whose man-management could be a lot better.

What happened on the pitch in the ensuing 90 minutes cast doubts over other aspects of his management as well. The City fans passed their own verdict on the strong talk that Mancini’s days were numbered and that Manuel Pellegrini had already been lined up for his job. They sang his name loudly, several times.

It’s a loyalty which does them credit – they see the fact that Mancini led them out of the trophy-less wilderness, giving them an FA Cup, a Premier League, a 6-1 win at Old Trafford, and enough glorious moments to last a lifetime.

By the end of the game, that loyalty was starting to look misplaced. With their best team on the pitch, City were slack, distracted and lethargic, as if they were simply not up for the final at all. The big game players did not play, Wigan winger Callum McManaman made mugs of City’s expensive defence – with the normally reliable Gael Clichy having a nightmare – and it was the Blues who looked like the relegation strugglers.

But Mancini’s failure to react to what was happening before him, other than ineffectively tweaking his team, was not good enough. He needed to change the formation to provide more of a threat and inhibit the raids of McManaman and Roger Espinoza down the flanks, but instead we got inertia, and the appearance of Edin Dzeko as sub when the game was already over, in injury time.

Mancini has repeatedly rubbed his own players, and many of his staff, up the wrong way over the last three-and-a-half years, with barbed criticism and thoughtless treatment. When the team is winning, such things appear to be detail. But when backs are to the wall and unity and spirit are needed, as they were on Saturday, such details can become monsters.

His remarkable performance in the post-match press conferences – blaming the club, and communications director Vicky Kloss in particular, for the Pellegrini rumours – was staggeringly desperate.

City had their chances in the game, not least when Carlos Tevez’s shot produced a remarkable toe-end save by Wigan keeper Joel Robles, but Wigan were worthy winners.

The Blues looked slow and uncertain all game and the red card for Pablo Zabaleta as he hared back to try to stop McManaman from racing clear, and was a fraction late in the tackle, turned the unlikely into the inevitable. With the game heading for extra-time, Shaun Maloney swung in a corner from the right and Watson rose unchallenged to glance his header home.

It was a stark reminder of the Blues’ Champions League failings over the last two seasons, when they were also undone by poor defending from near-post corners – against Napoli, Bayern Munich and Ajax twice – and suggested that lessons are not being learned.

It could have been a day when City ensured they closed the season on a high, and brought renewed hope for next season. Instead, they came up with a display which reflected the skies above Wembley – leaden, grey and gloomy, with no rays of sunshine breaking through. You can take that as a one-off bad day for the Blues, or set it in context of wider concerns about where Mancini was taking this team. But it is the view held by City's top brass about the way Mancini has handled his affairs which will really matter.
 
TGR said:
Pastor Kidney said:
Gaylord du Bois said:
Nope. There was a backhanded apology over it too from the journo(name escapes me)

Rob 'bald brummie Chelsea fan' Beasley

Beasley - a shithead of the very highest order!

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On Sunday, there was a Sky programme called Sunday Supplement which featured a "journalist" called Rob Beasley from the News of the World. During the program he went into ten minute rant where he accused Manchester City of "moral bankruptcy", this was because he was under the mistaken impression that Roberto Mancini had watched the Manchester City vs Sunderland game in December 2009 from the Stands at Eastlands knowing that it was Mark Hughes last game in charge before Mancini took charge.

This accusation was readily accepted as fact by the other journalists on the programme and, not to put too fine a point of it, Man City took their customary pummelling from the panel as they have no class and no moral compass.

Anyway, several concerned Man City fans were watching the program and reported the program to Man City's Press and Communications Officer Vicki Kloss, after a couple of days the fans received this response from Vicki

"Dear ***** and ******

I hope you are well. An update for you since my last note.

I have contacted all four journalists on Sunday Supplement this weekend and have received a full and unreserved apology from Rob Beasley on the phone and in writing , as he now recognises that Roberto Mancini wasn’t in the stands on the day in question. He is going to make the correction the next time he is on the show. I have also set up a meeting with Brian Woolnough for next week to discuss all matters relating to the football club, on and off the field as well as the structure here and in Abu Dhabi.

From a legal point of view, (and I consulted with our London based media lawyers on Sunday and again on Monday), technically a breach has taken place. Pragmatic legal advice however is that pursuit of this would be risky and potentially counter productive.

My view is that if the breach is corrected, it is better to influence and explain than to slap on a ban ( not that media organisations can be banned from the matches anyway. Bans can realistically only be applied to press conferences) In our situation, when we haven’t yet achieved on the pitch, it is far better to engage than to create even deeper rooted enemies, who, if they are so willing can step up their criticism to an even higher level.

This is not about mute acceptance of antagonistic and/or erroneous reporting. We have taken legal action on several occasions in the past few months in certain circumstances and will continue to do so when appropriate, however a longer term strategy is required when dealing with these matters as we try to inform slowly but surely, key figures in media, government and the football authorities.

I appreciate your contact. Please feel free to get in touch with the future about this or any other matter.

Best wishes

Vicky Kloss
Chief Communications Officer"

and here is Rob Beasleys written apology

"Believe me I do care about getting my facts right.

That's why I am concerned about your earlier e-mail in which you say Sky retracted their story of Mancini being at the match the day Hughesy got the bullet.

I saw the original story before the game and was gobsmacked. I'd never heard anything like it.

I did NOT see the retraction later.

I was not at the City game either, and I was not working on the Hughes out/Mancini in story so never found out the full detail - until now.

But I promise you since that day I have genuinely believed that Mancini was there and I just couldn't believe City or Roberto would stoop so low.

Why else would I speak out so vociferously about it?

This was the major incident that has coloured my opinion about City ever since, wrongly as it seems.

I too have looked into the matter today and fear you may well be right which obviously means I am in the wrong.

That's ok. I was "honestly" wrong if you can understand what I mean. I wasn't dishonestly, deviously and deliberately peddling something I knew to be untrue.

I just believed a bulletin from a widely respected, reputable organisation and missed their subsequent apology.

So thanks for putting me properly in the picture.

I delighted Mancini and City aren't that bad after all. Hurrah!

And I'm very sorry for saying they were.

All the best

Rob

PS: Chelsea top of two leagues tonight!!! C'mon the Blues!"

Rob Beasley does have "form" in this kind of matter, he is an ardent Chelsea fan and on the morning of a Champions League quarter final between Chelsea and Liverpool he published an article in the Sun that was a litany of lies and misquotations about Liverpool that he was forced to retract and apologise for.
that letter was to me and my missus, I got into trouble from Vicky for posting it on here. I think the club have not learned from that incident, we still need to improve our PR performance significantly.
 
The cookie monster said:
BoyBlue_1985 said:
Pigeonho said:
It's been reported that Madrid tallied a record points total that season, but unfortunately for them Barca beat that total. There's not alot you can do is there in that situation? He did the best his team could do, creating a record along the way. Another team bettered that.
Yes that was also the greatest team pretty much ever as well
Apart from milan in the late 80's early 90's..

Be interesting wouldn't it. A little tournament with 70's Brazil as well
 
So to cut a long story short, we do not have a clue what is going on. All i know is after years of absolute shite on the pitch we have won trophies in the last couple of seasons, but hey ho we have not made the quarters in the champs league and RM upsets people. Have i missed something. Honest to god the people who cherry pick media comments is laughable,
On a different note, all you complete dickheads that turned up Saturday, fuck off and do not come back
 
I would love nothing more than for the press to be shown up as absolute fools. I hope that our silent stance is a deliberate attempt to achieve this and that, behind the scenes, this is well known and understood by every one involved.

We put up with so much media nonsense, much of it shown in this thread, that it is absolutely time to flex our muscles. If this results in multiple apologies from the papers then so be it.

If what is being reported is true then it appears that both Mancini and Pelligrini are in the dark or playing the confidentiality clauses extremely well.
 
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