Mancini (cont)

samharris said:
shootmeifipost10k said:
samharris said:
So we lose out to a woeful Villa in the CC yet we only get to the FA semi due to being drawn against and beating woeful competition..

Just what the fuck is you want ffs.

we beat woeful teams..not good enough..
we lose to woeful teams...not good enough..

seriously...step back and read the shite you post it really is woefully fucking funny.


There is no point asking he's finished with this thread

No he's not bud.. I guarantee it... he's pissed off cos he's outnumbrered. ;)

There is no point asking he's finished with this thread

-- Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:49 pm --

There is no point asking he's finished with this thread

Edit I'm just joining in with what everyone else is doing
 
We were unlucky in CL last year, given should have had 2 pens at 0-0 in munich, then the tevez thing exploded. If we'd gone 2-0 up, that would prob never happened.

Our squad was weakened in summer hence less points in league.
How can we do better in CL this year if that's the case?
 
moomba said:
NipHolmes said:
An FA Cup run which is one of the kindest ever will help to save the season.

One of the kindest ever? Give me a break.

And I don't think it's fair for anyone to suggest that the FA Cup draw was easy without also recognising that the Champions League draw was torturous. Some people on this forum either cannot see that, or they are just here to create mischief.
 
coulsonblue said:
We were unlucky in CL last year, given should have had 2 pens at 0-0 in munich, then the tevez thing exploded. If we'd gone 2-0 up, that would prob never happened.

Our squad was weakened in summer hence less points in league.
How can we do better in CL this year if that's the case?

We need to do strengthening we didnt do last summer..
 
NipHolmes said:
BringBackSwales said:
NipHolmes said:
Don't make me laugh. PSG were almost anonymous in France until the investment. Granted they won the odd trophy but they hadn't won a league in 15 years or so before being invested into. Lyon and Marseille have had that league sewn up for years until recently.

First chance in Europe and they have a new squad as I pointed out and yet they have a chance to progress into the semi finals tonight.

Edit, don't mistake the point of my post. My point is that this collective experience stuff is nonsense, PSG prove it. They have turned over a whole squad, they are still bedding in players right now like Moura and yet they are leading a poor league and also in the QF of CL on their first attempt.


apples and pears - porto kiev and Zagreb v Dortmund real and ajax - very comparable groups

Of course. We had the hardest group I have ever come across but that still doesn't excuse the Ajax performances.

My point is look at history. Mancini didn't impress in Europe whilst at Inter even though he was winning titles and cups. they ha dthe balls to make an unpopular decision and it paid off. What I am trying to say is, if we do move Bobby on then we aren't Chelsea all of a sudden. We simply are looking to do better (in what is my opinion, the most important tournament in football outside the world cup) in the Champions League.

Change should be embraced, not feared. Change for positive reasons and long term success and suitability, it is important, it's evolution. Bobby has kicked our squad kicking and screaming into a poor outfit into a title winning one. He's had some huge backing from HRH Mansour to help along the process and we have arrived. However. That's where the cross-roads arrive. Do we stay with Mancini and hope he breaks a bad habit (poor showings in CL) and hope he improves his man-management and also gets to grips with being under DOF system or do we simply employee someone that will meet the stated criterias?

All I will say is if this was my club and I spent all this money I would want to at least put Ajax to the sword. I'd be more than disppointed coming stone last. I think you will agree with this too.

Put it this way. FFP is here, it will be complied with and we need to max out revenues. Doing well in Europe as well as winning trophies domestically is a MUST for raising revenue. Companies and glory hunters side with winning teams, hence why they pay tens of millions to be sponsors of this, that and the other. Finishing below Ajax is not good enough, absolutely no doubt about it.

-- Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:27 pm --

moomba said:
NipHolmes said:
An FA Cup run which is one of the kindest ever will help to save the season.

One of the kindest ever? Give me a break.

Tell me who we've faced then? Other than this semi final we've had it incredibly easy.

Whilst accepting that the Ajax results were less than we needed [against a team that gave the rags a few headaches the previous season], it also has to be noted that the Ajax manager is one of those reputed to be high up on City's managerial wish list. If this is so, maybe Ajax haven't been given the credit that they deserve.
 
Dortmund have recieved 29 million Euros more than us from the CL this year due to their progress.

If he does end up going it will be for his poor shows in Europe
 
Del_Bosque said:
Dortmund have recieved 29 million Euros more than us from the CL this year due to their progress.

If he does end up going it will be for his poor shows in Europe


How do you work that out?

€8.6m each for participating in the group stages
€5m to our €1.5m bonus from the group stages
€3.5m for making R16, €3.9m for making the QF and now €4.9m for making the semi's.

I make that €25.9m to our €10.1m from the fixed pool.

Of the variable (TV money) pool, I'd be surprised if they got as much as us.


They'll get extra revenue from 3 games and the chance to earn more if the progress to the final.

Chelsea got just under €60m last season for winning the whole thing. I reckon this season we'll get €37-38m.
 
Will you please save the mathematics for another time.
The next 3 pages are reserved for tonights champions league managerial down and dirty man love.
 
moomba said:
Del_Bosque said:
Dortmund have recieved 29 million Euros more than us from the CL this year due to their progress.

If he does end up going it will be for his poor shows in Europe


How do you work that out?

€8.6m each for participating in the group stages
€5m to our €1.5m bonus from the group stages
€3.5m for making R16, €3.9m for making the QF and now €4.9m for making the semi's.

I make that €25.9m to our €10.1m from the fixed pool.

Of the variable (TV money) pool, I'd be surprised if they got as much as us.


They'll get extra revenue from 3 games and the chance to earn more if the progress to the final.

Chelsea got just under €60m last season for winning the whole thing. I reckon this season we'll get €37-38m.
I think he's just after a job.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2jSiY-Vo8g[/youtube]

With Tolmie previously saying he's been told Mancini will be going, I'm guessing you're hinting that others will be following i.e. coaches, players etc.
 

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