Mancini (Formally part of the Adebayor thread)

[tommo74]

Good post.

I personally think the Tevez debacle should have been played down as you said and Bobby should have played the long game. By stating Tevez was finished he went awol as you said and his value plummeted. Had he played it safe we may have going it easier to sell and for a for a fairer valuation. He weakened our negotiation position and also came in (unfairly) for criticism when he too Tevez back even though he was most likely told to.

The Ade substitution is a fair shout. I just ask why some have an inch whilst Mario gets a mile.

Healthy debate this.

healthy ? really ?

I can't see how questioning things that worry me and others (by looks of a few) can be unhealthy. To think otherwise is blinkered.

Are fans not allowed to worry about the club they've supported all their life? How dare I be so cheeky!

Why are you worried? Champions last season, fa cup season before so his man management seems ok to me

 

[NipHolmes]

We dont know about his man management,we dont know if he is a ruthless **** or if the likes of Adebayor or Bellamy are just mouthy disruptive cunts.We dont need to know,we just need to keep heading in this direction.

We see that he wants rid of players he doesn't like working with hence why I have some reservations.

I agree our direction is one we need to continue in. Never said or thought otherwise.

Pretty much all the players Mancini has had issue with all have previous at other clubs with regards to causing problems. Interestingly players, such as, Zabaleta, Kompany, Barry etc seem to have no problem with his style of man-management.

We have got rid of players such as Bellamy, Ade, Robinho and replaced them with humble, committed professional footballers such as Silva, Aguero, Dzeko.

Reservations... For me it is exactly the opposite. His man-management technique has been to remove the troublemakers and replace them with consumate professionals.

Fair post and bang on the money to be fair. Here's a question for you, would he have been afforded this chance at another club?




To other poster. Napoli also was in the CL for first time. RDM inherited a team in disarray and he steered them to CL and FA Cup honours. Not an easy task by any means.

Anyway, gotta shoot off now. Will answer debate posts tomorrow. Good night.

 

[Mancio]

We see that he wants rid of players he doesn't like working with hence why I have some reservations.

I agree our direction is one we need to continue in. Never said or thought otherwise.

Pretty much all the players Mancini has had issue with all have previous at other clubs with regards to causing problems. Interestingly players, such as, Zabaleta, Kompany, Barry etc seem to have no problem with his style of man-management.

We have got rid of players such as Bellamy, Ade, Robinho and replaced them with humble, committed professional footballers such as Silva, Aguero, Dzeko.

Reservations... For me it is exactly the opposite. His man-management technique has been to remove the troublemakers and replace them with consumate professionals.

Fair post and bang on the money to be fair. Here's a question for you, would he have been afforded this chance at another club?




To other poster. Napoli also was in the CL for first time. RDM inherited a team in disarray and he steered them to CL and FA Cup honours. Not an easy task by any means.

Anyway, gotta shoot off now. Will answer debate posts tomorrow. Good night.

i can see you have a point here. we should sack mancini and sign di matteo then . at the end of the day di matteo has been able to win CL with an ageing team at a place where mourinho wasn't able to do with that men when they were in their prime , so di matteo is clearly better than mourinho.

 

[Ragnarok]

We see that he wants rid of players he doesn't like working with hence why I have some reservations.

I agree our direction is one we need to continue in. Never said or thought otherwise.

Pretty much all the players Mancini has had issue with all have previous at other clubs with regards to causing problems. Interestingly players, such as, Zabaleta, Kompany, Barry etc seem to have no problem with his style of man-management.

We have got rid of players such as Bellamy, Ade, Robinho and replaced them with humble, committed professional footballers such as Silva, Aguero, Dzeko.

Reservations... For me it is exactly the opposite. His man-management technique has been to remove the troublemakers and replace them with consumate professionals.

Fair post and bang on the money to be fair. Here's a question for you, would he have been afforded this chance at another club?




To other poster. Napoli also was in the CL for first time. RDM inherited a team in disarray and he steered them to CL and FA Cup honours. Not an easy task by any means.

Anyway, gotta shoot off now. Will answer debate posts tomorrow. Good night.

Billy?

 

[baildon blue]

Mancini is right to not like ADEBAYOR.I remember the game against wolves 2 seasons ago he started fighting with half the team he only plays 4 himself send him back to arsenal

 

[tommo74]

Well the missing ingredient was added aguero ,and as for Europe Mancini has had one season with city and we finished with 10 points and 9 times out of 10 teams qualify with 10 points, 2 seasons 2 trophies argue that

We still didn't qualify tho did we?

I base opinion on Inter too.

I personally expect semi finals next year with the team we have. If Mancini sets up like he did v the rags at OT and against Newcastle I think we will do a damn site better than going all out and being countered ala Napoli.

RDM, half a season, 2 trophies. Not knocking Mancini but stating fact. They beat 2 of our group conquerors and the best team in the world en route to lifting CL. Lucky or not those trophies shine in their cabinet

No we didn't qualify but my point was it was our first attempt, Rome wasn't built in a day chelsea have had years in Europe as have rags arsenal and others fact is bellamy went we improved adebayor went on loan we improved so think Mancini was proved right regardless of your opinion

But your original point was Mancini and his man management I have just pointed out to you that we got stronger after bellamy and adebayor left, know you start chatting about di matteo , make up Your mind about what your point is please as you are getting boring now

 

[oakiecokie]

Oh dear, Billy.....is back

Funny you should say that,as this was my response yesterday ;

New poster and I wonder if he was banned under another name,seeing he`s a real anti RM person.
Now,who`s been banned lately,hated Mancini,but come back under a pseudonym ?? ;)

 

[NipHolmes]

I'm worried because it seems we have to box clever with transfers and part of that is due to turnover of players.

I don't know who this Billy fella is. Maybe a mod can confirm I'm not him via I.P and join dates? I am a first time poster, if you choose not to believe then there's nothing I can do. So I'm apparently Homeslice, Billy, a rag and a Mancini hater. Not one of them true, ah well other shit to do and think about.

Laters.

P.S, if a mod does choose to prove me right the apologies to my pm box. Not going to repeat proving myself, I feel no need to and nor do I give a fuck

 

[Motty]

I know this isn't directly related to the debate but is he likely to be playing on Tuesday night?

 

[BlueAnorak]

NipHomes - You say Jose Mourinho is the best! - Yet Jose gave Ade a go for 4 months at the end of the 2010-11 season and then said "No thanks" even for a small fee. If Ade is so good, why did Jose do this then?

The reason is obvious. Ade doesn't do as he he is told. In fact he ignores the manager (whoever it is). The number of times Mancini argued with Ade from the touch line about him not doing what he was told indicates Ade simply doesn't do as he's told. Watching La Leiga as I do, I have to say Jose had a few disagreements with Ade as well. Ade will only play the way Ade wants as proved by 'Appy 'Array who tried to fit the team around the way Ade plays. Ade is simply not good enough. He leaks stuff to the press too - what decent manager would want that?

Bellers is a knut job. Bust ups at every club he has been at indicate that. No manager should have to stand a lose cannon continually fecking up his plans. Many City fans, including myself, believe he DELIBERATELY played like a drain in the Champions League decider against Spurs. His huge smile at the final whistle and 50 yard sprint (more energy expended than he'd done all the second half) to congratulate 'Appy 'Array said it all. Am I glad he's gone? You bet.

Mancini has won two trophies without the above players. With them he'd have won neither. Both players are self serving prima-donas and Hughes purchase of both of them (and Santa Crock) casts a huge shadow over his ability to be given any decent transfer budget.

City should only loan players they want out to good sides if there is a definite fee coming our way (even if only a loan fee) at the end.