Mancini (Formally part of the Adebayor thread)

[HOLMSLICE]

Re: Adebayor

You guys are bang on, this is the part of Mancini that doesnt sit well with me. He treats some players like absolute shit for no apparent reason. I couldn't get over the way he made a mockery of Bellamy no matter how much Bellamy announced his desire to play for the club, apologise and move on. Was it ever made clear what he actually did? Apart from put 100% into everything he did while here? No matter how well Bellamy played, it wasn't good enough for Mancini, which culminated in Mancini preferring to start Jo ahead of him! What a bag of shit Jo was, Bellamy was 10 times the player he was. Im convinced this cost us a fair few points that season. For all the praise Mancini gets, he definitely is not devoid from some serious man management flaws.

Remember you have no idea what goes on in the dressing room and that is HUGE in terms of team spirit.

There is a fair chance (Esp Bellamy) that they disrupted the dressing room and took focus away from Mancini's message.

Also the fact both got shipped out and we won...... THE PREMIER LEAGUE (still hasnt sunk in)

I'll side with Bobby on this if its ok......

Exactly mate.

To the people moan about Bob not liking Bellamy, Tevez, Adebayor. Were you concerned as Sergio slotted home against QPR? I know I wasn't.

This is the part about Bob that I fully appreciate. He knows what and who he wants. If he doesn't like you or want you, for whatever reason, you are out.
Get rid of the bad eggs...its not like they haven't got previous.

Its not as simple as that though is it? Just look at the situations we have with numerous players, paying their wages while they swan at other clubs. This ADE situation is fucking stinking the place out.

 

[bluefandk]

Re: Adebayor

You guys are bang on, this is the part of Mancini that doesnt sit well with me. He treats some players like absolute shit for no apparent reason. I couldn't get over the way he made a mockery of Bellamy no matter how much Bellamy announced his desire to play for the club, apologise and move on. Was it ever made clear what he actually did? Apart from put 100% into everything he did while here? No matter how well Bellamy played, it wasn't good enough for Mancini, which culminated in Mancini preferring to start Jo ahead of him! What a bag of shit Jo was, Bellamy was 10 times the player he was. Im convinced this cost us a fair few points that season. For all the praise Mancini gets, he definitely is not devoid from having some serious man management flaws.

Didn't see this as I posted whilst you did this. Totally agree.

Bellamy leaving left us empty of a winger too. Remember Bellamy in the CC? He bit his nose to spite his face imo.

You're dead on there mate. Angered me no end. You have to wonder what people's opinion would be of Mancini if Aguero didn't score that goal. I for one could not 100% say I would still be behind him. If Yaya gets injured this season, we know how devastating it will be for the team. We genuinely looked lost without him last season. That's why it is imperative we get in someone who offers something to compensate for his absence, something different. Van Persie could be the answer.

Yes because Bellamy went on to win the prem and the Chumps oh wait no he didnt he went to Liverpool to sit on the bench while Mancini won us the prem.

Bellamy is no where good enough to be as much trouble as he is.

 

[NipHolmes]

Re: Adebayor

You guys are bang on, this is the part of Mancini that doesnt sit well with me. He treats some players like absolute shit for no apparent reason. I couldn't get over the way he made a mockery of Bellamy no matter how much Bellamy announced his desire to play for the club, apologise and move on. Was it ever made clear what he actually did? Apart from put 100% into everything he did while here? No matter how well Bellamy played, it wasn't good enough for Mancini, which culminated in Mancini preferring to start Jo ahead of him! What a bag of shit Jo was, Bellamy was 10 times the player he was. Im convinced this cost us a fair few points that season. For all the praise Mancini gets, he definitely is not devoid from having some serious man management flaws.

Didn't see this as I posted whilst you did this. Totally agree.

Bellamy leaving left us empty of a winger too. Remember Bellamy in the CC? He bit his nose to spite his face imo.

You're dead on there mate. Angered me no end. You have to wonder what people's opinion would be of Mancini if Aguero didn't score that goal. I for one could not 100% say I would still be behind him. If Yaya gets injured this season, we know how devastating it will be for the team. We genuinely looked lost without him last season. That's why it is imperative we get in someone who offers something to compensate for his absence, something different. Van Persie could be the answer.

Same with Lescott, his sloppy header backwards which lead to Cisse would have been vilified had Aguero not got the winner.

 

[Ray78]

Re: Adebayor

We bought Dzeko because we thought he was the more reliable player than Adebayor We were intrested along with Higuain in that Summer but waited for the January transfer window to sign him. Juventus wanted to sign him along with Rags and Spurs It was at the time where Tevez handed his transfer request as well.

 

[NipHolmes]

Re: Adebayor

Didn't see this as I posted whilst you did this. Totally agree.

Bellamy leaving left us empty of a winger too. Remember Bellamy in the CC? He bit his nose to spite his face imo.

You're dead on there mate. Angered me no end. You have to wonder what people's opinion would be of Mancini if Aguero didn't score that goal. I for one could not 100% say I would still be behind him. If Yaya gets injured this season, we know how devastating it will be for the team. We genuinely looked lost without him last season. That's why it is imperative we get in someone who offers something to compensate for his absence, something different. Van Persie could be the answer.

Yes because Bellamy went on to win the prem and the Chumps oh wait no he didnt he went to Liverpool to sit on the bench while Mancini won us the prem.

Bellamy is no where good enough to be as much trouble as he is.

The same Liverpool that won a cup and finalled other. Don't blame Bellamy for Dalglish's failings in the league.

On his day he's as good as any winger, ask Fergie. He was sensational v us in the CC. I wish him all the best, he's a **** as a human but I fail to eer why that alters his ranking as a player.

Many top players are twats, they are twats with trophies though, ask Robben, Busquets etc.

Fact of matter is we missed width, Bellamy was a player on our books who left for FREE and left us wanting imho.

 

[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

Re: Adebayor

You guys are bang on, this is the part of Mancini that doesnt sit well with me. He treats some players like absolute shit for no apparent reason. I couldn't get over the way he made a mockery of Bellamy no matter how much Bellamy announced his desire to play for the club, apologise and move on. Was it ever made clear what he actually did? Apart from put 100% into everything he did while here? No matter how well Bellamy played, it wasn't good enough for Mancini, which culminated in Mancini preferring to start Jo ahead of him! What a bag of shit Jo was, Bellamy was 10 times the player he was. Im convinced this cost us a fair few points that season. For all the praise Mancini gets, he definitely is not devoid from some serious man management flaws.

Remember you have no idea what goes on in the dressing room and that is HUGE in terms of team spirit.

There is a fair chance (Esp Bellamy) that they disrupted the dressing room and took focus away from Mancini's message.

Also the fact both got shipped out and we won...... THE PREMIER LEAGUE (still hasnt sunk in)

I'll side with Bobby on this if its ok......

He won the league with the best players. It's not like he won it with Liverpool. I like Bobby so don't misconstrue what I say but he definitely ad issues. Dalgish, Jones, Mourinho and Harry got on well with players who Bob classed as trouble makers. See where I am coming from?

Clueless

 

[NipHolmes]

Re: Adebayor

Remember you have no idea what goes on in the dressing room and that is HUGE in terms of team spirit.

There is a fair chance (Esp Bellamy) that they disrupted the dressing room and took focus away from Mancini's message.

Also the fact both got shipped out and we won...... THE PREMIER LEAGUE (still hasnt sunk in)

I'll side with Bobby on this if its ok......

He won the league with the best players. It's not like he won it with Liverpool. I like Bobby so don't misconstrue what I say but he definitely ad issues. Dalgish, Jones, Mourinho and Harry got on well with players who Bob classed as trouble makers. See where I am coming from?

Clueless

Care to be more expansive?

Bellamys service was appreciated at Cardiff and Liverpool.
Adebayor at Real and Spurs.

Let's not let facts get in the way of opinion aye?

 

[bobmcfc]

Re: Adebayor

Indeed, those clubs have done so well with those players in the squad haven't they ?

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Re: Adebayor

You're dead on there mate. Angered me no end. You have to wonder what people's opinion would be of Mancini if Aguero didn't score that goal. I for one could not 100% say I would still be behind him. If Yaya gets injured this season, we know how devastating it will be for the team. We genuinely looked lost without him last season. That's why it is imperative we get in someone who offers something to compensate for his absence, something different. Van Persie could be the answer.

Yes because Bellamy went on to win the prem and the Chumps oh wait no he didnt he went to Liverpool to sit on the bench while Mancini won us the prem.

Bellamy is no where good enough to be as much trouble as he is.

The same Liverpool that won a cup and finalled other. Don't blame Bellamy for Dalglish's failings in the league.

On his day he's as good as any winger, ask Fergie. He was sensational v us in the CC. I wish him all the best, he's a **** as a human but I fail to eer why that alters his ranking as a player.

Many top players are twats, they are twats with trophies though, ask Robben, Busquets etc.

Fact of matter is we missed width, Bellamy was a player on our books who left for FREE and left us wanting imho.

Bellamy joined for Hughes didnt like Mancini and wanted to leave

Stop holding up like he is some hero and accept the fact that he is a **** that didn't want to play for us in the end

 

[NipHolmes]

Re: Adebayor

Indeed, those clubs have done so well with those players in the squad haven't they ?

Real came second to a Treble winning Barca didn't they?
Spurs finished top 4, a position higher than season before. Ade was top scorer IIRC.

Cardiff are Cardiff. He still gave his all and got them close to promotion.
Liverpool, Bellamy had a world v us and they won CC and runners up in FA Cup.

Not bad.

How did Savic and Kolorov do again?


I like Bobby and wad happy when he signed a new deal but it still doesn't answer his actions imo.