Mancini (Formally part of the Adebayor thread)

[BoyBlue_1985]

Re: Adebayor

Indeed, those clubs have done so well with those players in the squad haven't they ?

Real came second to a Treble winning Barca didn't they?
Spurs finished top 4, a position higher than season before. Ade was top scorer IIRC.

Cardiff are Cardiff. He still gave his all and got them close to promotion.
Liverpool, Bellamy had a world v us and they won CC and runners up in FA Cup.

Not bad.

How did Savic and Kolorov do again?


I like Bobby and wad happy when he signed a new deal but it still doesn't answer his actions imo.

So we should keep 2 players that upset team harmony because they did okay at other clubs.

 

[HOLMSLICE]

Re: Adebayor

Yes because Bellamy went on to win the prem and the Chumps oh wait no he didnt he went to Liverpool to sit on the bench while Mancini won us the prem.

Bellamy is no where good enough to be as much trouble as he is.

The same Liverpool that won a cup and finalled other. Don't blame Bellamy for Dalglish's failings in the league.

On his day he's as good as any winger, ask Fergie. He was sensational v us in the CC. I wish him all the best, he's a **** as a human but I fail to eer why that alters his ranking as a player.

Many top players are twats, they are twats with trophies though, ask Robben, Busquets etc.

Fact of matter is we missed width, Bellamy was a player on our books who left for FREE and left us wanting imho.

Bellamy joined for Hughes didnt like Mancini and wanted to leave

Stop holding up like he is some hero and accept the fact that he is a **** that didn't want to play for us in the end

Where did you pull that pile of steaming bullshit out of? Have you forgotten his countless interviews stating his desire to stay at the club as it matched his ambitions? While also making clear his bemusement at Mancini's attitude towards him? Its clear that if Mancini is not a fan of you, then its the road or the reserves. IMO opinion i would say perhaps Mancini took a disliking to Bellamy because he can be a bit mouthy in the dressing room, almost taking on a captain like role. Perhaps this rubbed him up the wrong way. Bellamy isin't the scumbag that many like to make out he is. He can be a bit of a chube, but most footballers have that problem. I for one was a fan of his desire to win and get the best out of those around him.

 

[NipHolmes]

Re: Adebayor

Yes because Bellamy went on to win the prem and the Chumps oh wait no he didnt he went to Liverpool to sit on the bench while Mancini won us the prem.

Bellamy is no where good enough to be as much trouble as he is.

The same Liverpool that won a cup and finalled other. Don't blame Bellamy for Dalglish's failings in the league.

On his day he's as good as any winger, ask Fergie. He was sensational v us in the CC. I wish him all the best, he's a **** as a human but I fail to eer why that alters his ranking as a player.

Many top players are twats, they are twats with trophies though, ask Robben, Busquets etc.

Fact of matter is we missed width, Bellamy was a player on our books who left for FREE and left us wanting imho.

Bellamy joined for Hughes didnt like Mancini and wanted to leave

Stop holding up like he is some hero and accept the fact that he is a **** that didn't want to play for us in the end

He signed for Hughes yes. He signed to play for honours too. I take it you weren't one of the fans that clapped him off the pitch then?

He's a **** yes, said that. But he's a wide player we needed season gone and we gave him away.

Deal with facts please. Fact is we have one winger, fact is we had him on the books, fact is he has ability and fact is he could have been utilised.

Mancini is free to manage the way he sees fit but signing Dzeko when we had Ade was counter productive and wasteful. Have in mind Ade didn't count towards FFP.

I am happy as a fan, no end in fact but discussion is healthy and I'm not going to act otherwise because a few disagree. Give me reasons for why I'm wrong.

Remember football is a business.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Re: Adebayor

The same Liverpool that won a cup and finalled other. Don't blame Bellamy for Dalglish's failings in the league.

On his day he's as good as any winger, ask Fergie. He was sensational v us in the CC. I wish him all the best, he's a **** as a human but I fail to eer why that alters his ranking as a player.

Many top players are twats, they are twats with trophies though, ask Robben, Busquets etc.

Fact of matter is we missed width, Bellamy was a player on our books who left for FREE and left us wanting imho.

Bellamy joined for Hughes didnt like Mancini and wanted to leave

Stop holding up like he is some hero and accept the fact that he is a **** that didn't want to play for us in the end

Where did you pull that pile of steaming bullshit out of? Have you forgotten is countless interviews stating his desire to stay at the club as it matched his ambitions? While also making clear his bemusement at Mancini's attitude towards him? Its clear that if Mancini is not a fan of you, then its the road or the reserves. IMO opinion i would say perhaps Mancini took a disliking to Bellamy because he can be a bit mouthy in the dressing room, almost taking on a captain like role. Perhaps this rubbed him up the wrong way. Bellamy isin't the scumbag that many like to make out he is. He can be a bit of a chube, but most footballers have that problem. I for one was a fan of his desire to win and get the best out of those around him.

Its not that I didn't like Bellamy, he was great for us but when it comes down to it the manager will always win (old Newcastle exempt).
Bellamy is very clever at saying the right things to the camera which seemes to have worked on you. Like when he went to Cardiff and thanked everyone at the club but Mancini for making his dream come true.
Oh and i never called him a scumbag as he does amazing things for charity and that can never be taken away from him as a man

 

[bluefandk]

Re: Adebayor

You're dead on there mate. Angered me no end. You have to wonder what people's opinion would be of Mancini if Aguero didn't score that goal. I for one could not 100% say I would still be behind him. If Yaya gets injured this season, we know how devastating it will be for the team. We genuinely looked lost without him last season. That's why it is imperative we get in someone who offers something to compensate for his absence, something different. Van Persie could be the answer.

Yes because Bellamy went on to win the prem and the Chumps oh wait no he didnt he went to Liverpool to sit on the bench while Mancini won us the prem.

Bellamy is no where good enough to be as much trouble as he is.

The same Liverpool that won a cup and finalled other. Don't blame Bellamy for Dalglish's failings in the league.

On his day he's as good as any winger, ask Fergie. He was sensational v us in the CC. I wish him all the best, he's a **** as a human but I fail to eer why that alters his ranking as a player.

Many top players are twats, they are twats with trophies though, ask Robben, Busquets etc.

Fact of matter is we missed width, Bellamy was a player on our books who left for FREE and left us wanting imho.

We didnt miss Bellamy we won the league, Bellamy is not a top player which is why he spent most of last season sat on the bench at Liverpool, if you are gonna be a **** you have to be worth the trouble if you arent no top maneger will accept your cuntish behaviour.

 

[NipHolmes]

Re: Adebayor

Indeed, those clubs have done so well with those players in the squad haven't they ?

Real came second to a Treble winning Barca didn't they?
Spurs finished top 4, a position higher than season before. Ade was top scorer IIRC.

Cardiff are Cardiff. He still gave his all and got them close to promotion.
Liverpool, Bellamy had a world v us and they won CC and runners up in FA Cup.

Not bad.

How did Savic and Kolorov do again?


I like Bobby and wad happy when he signed a new deal but it still doesn't answer his actions imo.

So we should keep 2 players that upset team harmony because they did okay at other clubs.

I'd question why those players did well at other clubs and not here first and foremost.

A manager manages. Rather than manage, Mancini cast them away.

I simply think Mancini is a bit green when it comes to managing. He's seen us right on the field but at a great financial expense. We did win the league, yes, but we did so with imo the best players the prem has seen since the United treble winning team. Let's be straight about things. It's not like he won with lesser players. I personally think we should have won by more than GD.

 

[NipHolmes]

Re: Adebayor

Yes because Bellamy went on to win the prem and the Chumps oh wait no he didnt he went to Liverpool to sit on the bench while Mancini won us the prem.

Bellamy is no where good enough to be as much trouble as he is.

The same Liverpool that won a cup and finalled other. Don't blame Bellamy for Dalglish's failings in the league.

On his day he's as good as any winger, ask Fergie. He was sensational v us in the CC. I wish him all the best, he's a **** as a human but I fail to eer why that alters his ranking as a player.

Many top players are twats, they are twats with trophies though, ask Robben, Busquets etc.

Fact of matter is we missed width, Bellamy was a player on our books who left for FREE and left us wanting imho.

We didnt miss Bellamy we won the league, Bellamy is not a top player which is why he spent most of last season sat on the bench at Liverpool, if you are gonna be a **** you have to be worth the trouble if you arent no top maneger will accept your cuntish behaviour.

He played 27 times, I'd have him everyday of the week over Johnson.

I agree with what you're saying about a mouthy bastard needing to be a player but I don't see how its beneficial to offload a player with no replacement and to also give away in the process.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Re: Adebayor

Real came second to a Treble winning Barca didn't they?
Spurs finished top 4, a position higher than season before. Ade was top scorer IIRC.

Cardiff are Cardiff. He still gave his all and got them close to promotion.
Liverpool, Bellamy had a world v us and they won CC and runners up in FA Cup.

Not bad.

How did Savic and Kolorov do again?


I like Bobby and wad happy when he signed a new deal but it still doesn't answer his actions imo.

So we should keep 2 players that upset team harmony because they did okay at other clubs.

I'd question why those players did well at other clubs and not here first and foremost.

A manager manages. Rather than manage, Mancini cast them away.

I simply think Mancini is a bit green when it comes to managing. He's seen us right on the field but at a great financial expense. We did win the league, yes, but we did so with imo the best players the prem has seen since the United treble winning team. Let's be straight about things. It's not like he won with lesser players. I personally think we should have won by more than GD.

 

[NipHolmes]

Re: Adebayor

So we should keep 2 players that upset team harmony because they did okay at other clubs.

I'd question why those players did well at other clubs and not here first and foremost.

A manager manages. Rather than manage, Mancini cast them away.

I simply think Mancini is a bit green when it comes to managing. He's seen us right on the field but at a great financial expense. We did win the league, yes, but we did so with imo the best players the prem has seen since the United treble winning team. Let's be straight about things. It's not like he won with lesser players. I personally think we should have won by more than GD.

Instead if a dumb picture why not debate this sensibly and pick out my wrongs. Please do, in fact I challenge you.

 

[fairyfeet]

Re: Adebayor

So we should keep 2 players that upset team harmony because they did okay at other clubs.

I'd question why those players did well at other clubs and not here first and foremost.

A manager manages. Rather than manage, Mancini cast them away.

I simply think Mancini is a bit green when it comes to managing. He's seen us right on the field but at a great financial expense. We did win the league, yes, but we did so with imo the best players the prem has seen since the United treble winning team. Let's be straight about things. It's not like he won with lesser players. I personally think we should have won by more than GD.

Ha ha, me neither ....