Failsworth_Blue
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DD said:All as I can say is that Didsbury Dave, K. Reeves, Tolmies and I were all saying exactly the same six months ago that we are now. No bandwagon jumping, no knee jerk reactions. We saw it coming and went to great lengths to put our necks on the chopping block for 95% of Bluemoon to shoot us down in flames.
The fact that considerably more people agree with us now and considerably less people are shooting us down in flames, only goes to reinforce the belief that Didsbury Dave simply believes he is right because he is!:)
I'm actually out of energy on the whole issue. I wrote 3,000 words on the issue in the last KK (well 2,700 because 300 I copied and pasted from a fellow poster on here whose name I couldn't remember to give him the credit he deserved for it:)) and just feel too deflated by the whole issue to write anymore. (If anyone wants to read it on the off chance, PM me and I'll email it as it's too big for a post.
The kindest way I can describe Mancini is that he is a clueless buffoon. Stronger words get used when I've had a couple of pints of Guinness.
What was you saying 6 months ago? That you didn't rate Mancini? A lot haven't rated him from day one for whatever reasons. I have absolutely no problem with people not thinking Mancini is the right man but people calling him a clueless buffoon and things as such is ridiculous. A clueless bafoon doesn't achieve what he's achieved as a manager in what is so far a short career, a clueless bafoon doesn't take a team to 4th with 6 games to go.
I acknowledge that at times this season and especially on Monday we've not been good enough and Mancini does make mistakes (He acknowledges that himself) but as a manager he's at a stage where he still has plenty to learn. His style might not work in the premiership, he might never win us the champions league, infact he might not even get us in the top four but how about we see where we finish at the end of the season before calling him a clueless bafoon, i'm not asking you or anyone else to wait 6 months or whatever, i'm just saying how about you wait another 6 league games. If we finish top 4 then he'll have done a good job, in his first full season he'll have took us above Spurs and into the champions league, that would represent progress surely?
I understand that people have made their decision with regards to Mancini and that even if we come 4th they won't want him to stay, their reasons behind that i'm not sure. It's all well and good saying thats the minimum expectation, we should be doing better but what you have to look is who the teams in the top three are. We aren't trying to overtake teams who don't have quality, we are trying to take over teams who have been signing quality players for a number of seasons, who have settled squads. I don't think it's reasonable to say we should be finishing better than 4th in the managers first full season, we signed x amount of players in the summer and barely had a pre season together
The performance on Monday wasn't good enough, the performance before was more than good enough, it was silly IMO of Mancini to drop De Jong and Silva. De Jong for me is the most important player in terms of how he has an effect on the system Mancini favours, his positional play is outstanding and i'm confident with De Jong and Silva back and starting we'll see more performances like Sunderland than the Liverpool one, if we don't and we end up getting beat in the semi and finishing 5th i'll hold my hands up and say Mancini's not done well enough, until then i think with De Jong and Silva back in the starting line up we'll be much better and finish 4th at the very least