Mancini out? (merged)

[NipHolmes]

Re: Mancini out?

Thank fuck he isn't nine points behind in a title race.

Thanks fuck he's still in the CL.

Thank fuck his players actually like him.

Thank fuck he's actually a coach capable of getting the best out of his players.

You went down with the Balotelli ship and you'll go down with the Mancini one. None so blind as those who can't see a limited football coach.

Don't worry Billy he'll fix it, as he keeps telling us

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Manchester City boss Roberto Mancini admitted Joe Hart had saved his side in the 1-1 Champions League draw with Borussia Dortmund - and said the Blues need to fight harder for success against Europe's best.

Marco Reus scored for the visitors after a slack pass from Jack Rodwell before substitute Mario Balotelli's late penalty levelled the score. Blues keeper Hart made a string of world class saves throughout the game.

"I think that Joe saved us. He did very, very well," Mancini said.

"Today we deserved to conceded three or four goals. We didn't play well.

"We didn't play well because Borussia Dortmund played better than us.

"They probably at this moment are a better team than us. If we want to play in the Champions League we have to play better than tonight.

"We have to run and fight. It's not enough to just pass. Champions League is another situation - different from the championship.

"We have to run and fight. It's not enough to just have quality."

Mancini admitted his frustration as City remained without a clean sheet this season, but the Italian revealed he had identified the reason for his side's poor defensive performance tonight as they were over-run by Dortmund's fleet-footed young stars.

"We did a lot of mistakes. It was very strange for us," he said.

"I know the problem and I will resolve very quickly this problem."

Asked what the problem was, he added: "It is my problem. It is my job. I understand the problem and I will resolve (it) very quickly."

City's penalty lifeline came after Dortmund defender Neven Subotic saw Sergio Aguero kick the ball on to his hand at close quarters, a decision Mancini agreed could have gone either way.

"He touched the ball with his hand. He was unlucky," he said.

"It could be maybe not, but I'm happy with the penalty.

"I think in the end this point could be important."


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The problem is YOU Mancini, YOU. You failed in Europe at Inter and you've failed here, our football resembles 10/11 rather than 11/12. You're taking our team back.

You 'knew the problem' yet still haven't resolved it. The championship is supposedly different? The same problems exist there, even Stevie Wonder can see that.
Had enough, GO!

 

[NQCitizen]

Re: Mancini out?

Jurgen Klopp for me.

Thank fuck he isn't nine points behind in a title race.

He gets the best out of his players and he could potentially bring Hummels with him in the summer. If Dortmund weren't so focused on doing so well in Europe they'd be much closer to Bayern, who are actually having their revenge season (haven't they only conceded 7 goals all season?) to win back the Bundesliga title anyway.

Isn't that exactly what we're up against with United having the best run ever?

 

[Blue Smarties]

Re: Mancini out?

Klopp for me.

 

[Danamy]

Re: Mancini out?

It won't be long and Soriano will be saying it

I bet Khaldoon is happy he doesn't have to deal with most of this shit anymore.

The great thing about where we now stand as a club, it's great to know all the fans can trust the owners and the people that have been put in place, to make the right calls.

Can we? Big mistakes made in the Summer, and the new suits may be well qualified accountants who were very lucky to be at Barcelona at the right time.

I think I am coming round to your way of thinking, but I don't share your confidence about the future. We are in a vulnerable position. The academy if 18 months off. The new stadium is not going to be full if fans don't have a winning team, and a new manager wont have the funds Mancini and Hughes had. At the same time I think Mancini has had his time.

The future's very bright indeed in regards the campus, which makes having the right man in charge even more important

 

[Moody]

Re: Mancini out?

Jurgen Klopp for me.

Thank fuck he isn't nine points behind in a title race.

More to it than the points! Your telling me you've enjoyed performances style of play champs league performances this season ?i

 

[mcfcphil]

Re: Mancini out?

Jurgen Klopp for me.

Thank fuck he isn't nine points behind in a title race.

Thanks fuck he's still in the CL.

Thank fuck his players actually like him.

Thank fuck he's actually a coach capable of getting the best out of his players.

You went down with the Balotelli ship and you'll go down with the Mancini one. None so blind as those who can't see a limited football coach.

Went down with the ship? Sounds like a manchester city player he liked and believed in was sold. It's not going down with the ship. This attitude confuses me when people suggest fans support factions within a club rather than the club itself.

 

[MCFC BOB]

Re: Mancini out?

Thank fuck he isn't nine points behind in a title race.

He gets the best out of his players and he could potentially bring Hummels with him in the summer. If Dortmund weren't so focused on doing so well in Europe they'd be much closer to Bayern, who are actually having their revenge season (haven't they only conceded 7 goals all season?) to win back the Bundesliga title anyway.

Isn't that exactly what we're up against with United having the best run ever?

Well, no, not exactly.

Dortmund won the title in 2011 and defended it in 2012.
They're still in the Champions' League.
They've got less money.
Klopp has much less to work with than Mancini and is achieving better results.

 

[Mattyc55]

Re: Mancini out?

Mancini is a good manager, a likeable guy who we should remember fondly if is to be sacked. He obviously deserved another season after clawing it back, but his weaknesses are there for all to see - the same problems that cost him his last job. It would be easy to give it the whole 'United's 5 minute collapse against Everton won us the title' but that would be disrespectful to Mancini's brilliant wins against them and Newcastle under such huge pressure. He got something special out of our players for the last 6 games of the season and for that we should be eternally grateful. I've (personally) never really rated him as a top manager, but he's a great guy and last night it was sad to see him looking so broken on the touchline. The players have seemingly given up on his one dimensional tactics and poor man-management. Should Mourinho come available, I think our owners will justifiably jump at the chance to get him.

 

[Marvin]

Re: Mancini out?

Jurgen Klopp for me.

Thank fuck he isn't nine points behind in a title race.

He has worked absolute miracles at Dortmund on a small budget and actually qualified from the CL group unlike Mancini and like LoveCity has said previously on this thread he fits perfectly with visions from the owners and the idea of of promoting youth with new academy campus being built at Dortmund he watches the youth side on a regular basis.

Personally my first choice would be Mouriho as he would guarantee trophies but if he isn't attainable then Klopp is a close second.

You want to take your blue tinted glasses off and have a look at MCFC and English football from the outside.

Dortmund play in front of 80k and are 2nd in their League. We play in front of 47k and are 2nd in the League to a club who are going to dominate football for the forseeable future.

I am not dead set against changing manager but before you actively wish it and hope for it, bear in mind that it wont be easy getting the big name you wish for and as Real Madrid have found it guarantees nothing.

I hope Mancini re-captures the belief of his players and City have a great finish to the season at Wembley but that's another pipe-dream

 

[bapi]

Re: Mancini out?

Thank fuck he isn't nine points behind in a title race.

He gets the best out of his players and he could potentially bring Hummels with him in the summer. If Dortmund weren't so focused on doing so well in Europe they'd be much closer to Bayern, who are actually having their revenge season (haven't they only conceded 7 goals all season?) to win back the Bundesliga title anyway.

Dortmund are on 39 points from 21 games. That's less than 2 points per game, which is worse than Mancini. That excuse doesn't wash.

They were not Ajax's whores in CL like City did.

 

[NipHolmes]

Re: Mancini out?

He gets the best out of his players and he could potentially bring Hummels with him in the summer. If Dortmund weren't so focused on doing so well in Europe they'd be much closer to Bayern, who are actually having their revenge season (haven't they only conceded 7 goals all season?) to win back the Bundesliga title anyway.

Isn't that exactly what we're up against with United having the best run ever?

Well, no, not exactly.

Dortmund won the title in 2011 and defended it in 2012.
They're still in the Champions' League.
They've got less money.
Klopp has much less to work with than Mancini and is achieving better results.

If anyone doesn't 'get' what you just wrote needs to stop watching football, they simply don't understand.

It's simplistic to just compare achievements, you need to factor in competition, time frame, funds and the future. Dortmund have done what we've done but on a shoestring. This isn't to say we're fucked, we just simply need a set of better educated eyes to lead the way. We have the tools, we just need the right man.

You can have the engine, the chassis, the wheels, the abs etc but if you don't have the right driver you won't win the race.

 

[Any1aBlue]

Re: Mancini out?

I find it very interesting how many turncoats there are on this site - I have been reviled for being outspoken in my dislike of Mancini; as a person and, more importantly, as a Manager.

His man management skills are non existent and his tactics and team selections utterly baffling - I am giving him the benefit of the doubt on abysmal transfer policy which hasn't helped.

Every team he has picked has been wrong (i give you nasri instead of milner as an example). He always drops players 'in form'. Blames players for poor performances whilst playing them out of position. I don't like his style of play and his negative sideways methods.

I have been the only one here who has warned of this impending calamity - a billion spent and we wont win a trophy - indeed, will we finish 4th?

We are the only team I can recall who win the title and actually go out of our way to ensure we dont do it again. 50m spent on utter rubbish..........................oh,hell,this is the most down I have been as a blue in 50yrs because they just didnt try - and I cant label that at previous sides no matter how crap we've been.

Please, Just go.....................

 

[bapi]

Re: Mancini out?

Exactly he never questions himself we don't score he comes out and says aguero and dzeko didn't play well but anyone knows if you watch city every week like me that Sergio bust a gut every game for the club and that's without any decent service so comes short all the time to get the ball. Mancini needs to look in the mirror not have a pop at the players he lacks tactical skills in some areas and only has one style of play for me he has to go or we risk losing players like Sergio!

+1

He's stupid, arrogant and naive. He thinks he can't make any mistakes.

 

[NipHolmes]

Re: Mancini out?

Thank fuck he isn't nine points behind in a title race.

He has worked absolute miracles at Dortmund on a small budget and actually qualified from the CL group unlike Mancini and like LoveCity has said previously on this thread he fits perfectly with visions from the owners and the idea of of promoting youth with new academy campus being built at Dortmund he watches the youth side on a regular basis.

Personally my first choice would be Mouriho as he would guarantee trophies but if he isn't attainable then Klopp is a close second.

You want to take your blue tinted glasses off and have a look at MCFC and English football from the outside.

Dortmund play in front of 80k and are 2nd in their League. We play in front of 47k and are 2nd in the League to a club who are going to dominate football for the forseeable future.

I am not dead set against changing manager but before you actively wish it and hope for it, bear in mind that it wont be easy getting the big name you wish for and as Real Madrid have found it guarantees nothing.

I hope Mancini re-captures the belief of his players and City have a great finish to the season at Wembley but that's another pipe-dream

Real Madrid have done just fine. It's laughable that you say it guarantees nothing, last season they were exceptional! Players have had a civil war against manager and still they are in CL and still they look good as a force.

100 points last season, most goals ever scored etc. Yet people dismiss that. Why?

 

[Utter bobbins]

Re: Mancini out?

Isn't that exactly what we're up against with United having the best run ever?

Well, no, not exactly.

Dortmund won the title in 2011 and defended it in 2012.
They're still in the Champions' League.
They've got less money.
Klopp has much less to work with than Mancini and is achieving better results.

If anyone doesn't 'get' what you just wrote needs to stop watching football, they simply don't understand.

It's simplistic to just compare achievements, you need to factor in competition, time frame, funds and the future. Dortmund have done what we've done but on a shoestring. This isn't to say we're fucked, we just simply need a set of better educated eyes to lead the way. We have the tools, we just need the right man.

You can have the engine, the chassis, the wheels, the abs etc but if you don't have the right driver you won't win the race.

Just depends if its a Red Bull or Ferrari

 

[Sky Blue]

Re: Mancini out?

..........................oh,hell,this is the most down I have been as a blue in 50yrs because they just didnt try - and I cant label that at previous sides no matter how crap we've been..

Haha you get funnier.

 

[Utter bobbins]

Re: Mancini out?

I find it very interesting how many turncoats there are on this site - I have been reviled for being outspoken in my dislike of Mancini; as a person and, more importantly, as a Manager.

His man management skills are non existent and his tactics and team selections utterly baffling - I am giving him the benefit of the doubt on abysmal transfer policy which hasn't helped.

Every team he has picked has been wrong (i give you nasri instead of milner as an example). He always drops players 'in form'. Blames players for poor performances whilst playing them out of position. I don't like his style of play and his negative sideways methods.

I have been the only one here who has warned of this impending calamity - a billion spent and we wont win a trophy - indeed, will we finish 4th?

We are the only team I can recall who win the title and actually go out of our way to ensure we dont do it again. 50m spent on utter rubbish..........................oh,hell,this is the most down I have been as a blue in 50yrs because they just didnt try - and I cant label that at previous sides no matter how crap we've been.

Please, Just go.....................

Lol

 

[scall11]

Re: Mancini out?

What about Gary Neville?

The only one who knows how Fergie works and could out mind game him?

 

[dobobobo]

Re: was I the only one..

That expected to wake up to the news that Mancini was fired? He cant even motivate the players anymore, he needs to fucking go.

And who exactly is available to replace him?

So yes, I think you are the only one.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Re: Mancini out?

It won't be long and Soriano will be saying it

I bet Khaldoon is happy he doesn't have to deal with most of this shit anymore.

The great thing about where we now stand as a club, it's great to know all the fans can trust the owners and the people that have been put in place, to make the right calls.

Can we? Big mistakes made in the Summer, and the new suits may be well qualified accountants who were very lucky to be at Barcelona at the right time.

I think I am coming round to your way of thinking, but I don't share your confidence about the future. We are in a vulnerable position. The academy if 18 months off. The new stadium is not going to be full if fans don't have a winning team, and a new manager wont have the funds Mancini and Hughes had. At the same time I think Mancini has had his time.

I understand that, and it's not about blind faith, not at all. For me, prior to the two Barca guys coming in, our board have held a blind spot to something clearly not right this season.

Perhaps, I do them a disservice, and it was a primary driver for those particular appointments?

However, Soriano and Begiristain know full well the exacting standards required to be successful at the top of the game.

Begiristain certainly seems to know his onions. As for the next 18 months, it has to be about moving forward.

I actually think the new manager will be given a lot of money this summer, as a result of outgoings, and what has been held back.

Mancini is also falling foul of the cycle. We accelerated our spending to compete and a number are now peaked and running down contracts.

In that respect, I feel sorry for him. Paying the price for £200m wasted by Hughes.