Mancini out? (merged)

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As Pep is out of the picture; for the members who wants Mancini "out", are you thinking of Mourinho?

What do you think the chances of securing him, while considering below points:

- News stating that our current top brass had overlooked or declined Mourinho the chance to coach Barca, during their time there.

- As various members seem furious at Mancini rantings on his players; I recall Mourinho did the same to his team this season.

- Members are stating that Senior Squad members are disgruntled about Mancini this season; well Mourinho is no better, as before he landed in Real, he demanded the departures of Raul and Guti (the most influential senior squad members at that time). This season, he seems in a heated battle with Casillas and Ramos..... (Captain and Vice-Captain; imagine him sidelining Kompany and Zabaleta in our team!)


While we had a very bad performance in our last match; even the goals conceded were because of our own players' errors/gifts....

You need to realize that it is not our given right to win the league every single season....Members’ impatient nature is understandable since we have just won it, after a loooooong time in waiting.....
Be realistic in your judgment; we are bound to come into such situations in many of the seasons ahead of us!.....

For the time being; keep the faith in the manager and our players.
 
Your point is a great one, I just wonder if he can become a great manager when he does'nt learn from his mistakes, instead he points the finger at everyone else makes excuses and all this without questioning himself or his tactics, methods etc my big worry with mancini is his stubbornness.
 
Outlaw said:
As Pep is out of the picture; for the members who wants Mancini "out", are you thinking of Mourinho?

What do you think the chances of securing him, while considering below points:

- News stating that our current top brass had overlooked or declined Mourinho the chance to coach Barca, during their time there.

- As various members seem furious at Mancini rantings on his players; I recall Mourinho did the same to his team this season.

- Members are stating that Senior Squad members are disgruntled about Mancini this season; well Mourinho is no better, as before he landed in Real, he demanded the departures of Raul and Guti (the most influential senior squad members at that time). This season, he seems in a heated battle with Casillas and Ramos..... (Captain and Vice-Captain; imagine him sidelining Kompany and Zabaleta in our team!)


While we had a very bad performance in our last match; even the goals conceded were because of our own players' errors/gifts....

You need to realize that it is not our given right to win the league every single season....Members’ impatient nature is understandable since we have just won it, after a loooooong time in waiting.....
Be realistic in your judgment; we are bound to come into such situations in many of the seasons ahead of us!.....

For the time being; keep the faith in the manager and our players.
With Mancini yes
 
Jonny Boy said:
Mancini is bonkers and I don't particularly like him or his style BUT he must be given 5 years - anything else is just going in circles for the club -

by changing the manager every couple of years it gives players way too much power - they get used to it and then lose respect too easily - its also a way for them to pass the buck.

I was at the Southampton game with the home support quite close to the dugout and watched him closely - he looked desperate and his mannerisms were that of a man who's losing control or not got it at all. The support for him/and the team was amazing from the City fans, even at 3-1 down - I wonder whether it gave him any comfort!?

He clearly needs to chill and go back to bascis but with the spectre of a another manager taking over how can he. By saying what he has recently he's wrting his obituary - hence my first comment being bonkers.

I'm sure he will learn a lot by reflecting over the summer and regroup and from the lessons of this season build a stronger and more focusesd team - cause that is not what we got at the moment.

bottom line - he's gotta be given more time and I believe he could become a really great manager - that takes time
HE MUST BE given 5 years, load of old tosh
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
Outlaw said:
As Pep is out of the picture; for the members who wants Mancini "out", are you thinking of Mourinho?

What do you think the chances of securing him, while considering below points:

- News stating that our current top brass had overlooked or declined Mourinho the chance to coach Barca, during their time there.

- As various members seem furious at Mancini rantings on his players; I recall Mourinho did the same to his team this season.

- Members are stating that Senior Squad members are disgruntled about Mancini this season; well Mourinho is no better, as before he landed in Real, he demanded the departures of Raul and Guti (the most influential senior squad members at that time). This season, he seems in a heated battle with Casillas and Ramos..... (Captain and Vice-Captain; imagine him sidelining Kompany and Zabaleta in our team!)


While we had a very bad performance in our last match; even the goals conceded were because of our own players' errors/gifts....

You need to realize that it is not our given right to win the league every single season....Members’ impatient nature is understandable since we have just won it, after a loooooong time in waiting.....
Be realistic in your judgment; we are bound to come into such situations in many of the seasons ahead of us!.....

For the time being; keep the faith in the manager and our players.
With Mancini yes

It was a general statement; independent of our manager in future seasons.

Even if we have Mourinho; we are bound to have a similar match incident with him down the line....He already faced a similar situation in Real; their last loss was an own goal by CR7! (to Granada, if I'm not mistaken!!)
 
Outlaw said:
As Pep is out of the picture; for the members who wants Mancini "out", are you thinking of Mourinho?

What do you think the chances of securing him, while considering below points:

- News stating that our current top brass had overlooked or declined Mourinho the chance to coach Barca, during their time there.

- As various members seem furious at Mancini rantings on his players; I recall Mourinho did the same to his team this season.

- Members are stating that Senior Squad members are disgruntled about Mancini this season; well Mourinho is no better, as before he landed in Real, he demanded the departures of Raul and Guti (the most influential senior squad members at that time). This season, he seems in a heated battle with Casillas and Ramos..... (Captain and Vice-Captain; imagine him sidelining Kompany and Zabaleta in our team!)


While we had a very bad performance in our last match; even the goals conceded were because of our own players' errors/gifts....

You need to realize that it is not our given right to win the league every single season....Members’ impatient nature is understandable since we have just won it, after a loooooong time in waiting.....
Be realistic in your judgment; we are bound to come into such situations in many of the seasons ahead of us!.....

For the time being; keep the faith in the manager and our players.

Declined Mourinho on the basis that they decided he wasn't right for Barcelona at that particular time.

Txiki is and remains to this day a friend of Mourinho and has indeed stayed at his house on numerous occasions.
 
Bluemoon115 said:
Outlaw said:
For the time being; keep the faith in the manager and our players.
Some don't deserve that.

Cannot argue on that!!

Regardless, all players are in this now; they need to repay the fans' faith in them (well some, more than others!!)...
 
BoyBlue_1985 said:
Jonny Boy said:
Mancini is bonkers and I don't particularly like him or his style BUT he must be given 5 years - anything else is just going in circles for the club -

by changing the manager every couple of years it gives players way too much power - they get used to it and then lose respect too easily - its also a way for them to pass the buck.

I was at the Southampton game with the home support quite close to the dugout and watched him closely - he looked desperate and his mannerisms were that of a man who's losing control or not got it at all. The support for him/and the team was amazing from the City fans, even at 3-1 down - I wonder whether it gave him any comfort!?

He clearly needs to chill and go back to bascis but with the spectre of a another manager taking over how can he. By saying what he has recently he's wrting his obituary - hence my first comment being bonkers.

I'm sure he will learn a lot by reflecting over the summer and regroup and from the lessons of this season build a stronger and more focusesd team - cause that is not what we got at the moment.

bottom line - he's gotta be given more time and I believe he could become a really great manager - that takes time
HE MUST BE given 5 years, load of old tosh

there speak the voice of reasoned logic. Just for the record I meant 5 years in total, he's had 3 so 2 more.

My main point, it's crap to change becasue it's become a little uncomfortable and we're only 2nd and we're not going to win the league again - boohoo- just seems another nail in the coffin of what football was about. Now its instant success all the time or get rid
 
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