Mancini told CL form unacceptable in 1st meeting with Txiki

[Freestyler]

Glad someone has told him, Mancini think's he's got his head screwed on in Europe and that everything is the players fault, when evidently it isn't.

Any quotes to back this up?

''The players aren't good enough to play in this team, if they can't play my formation''
is that enough?

clearly Mancini has no idea of his own players strengths and weaknesses. he makes such a stupid comment, yeh HE bought them players.

end of topic.

 

[The Future's Blue]

http://m.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/nov/09/roberto-mancini-manchester-city-david-platt?cat=football&type=article


Roberto Mancini told he has full backing of Manchester City hierarchy
• Abu Dhabi regime not concerned by Italian's recent outbursts
• Manchester City manager just wants to win, says David Platt

Roberto Mancini wears his heart on his sleeve, says the Manchester City assistant manager, David Platt. Photograph: Dean Mouhtaropoulos/Getty Images
Jamie Jackson
The Guardian, Fri 9 Nov 2012 23.03 GMT
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Roberto Mancini has the full backing of Manchester City's Abu Dhabi hierarchy regarding his admission that he was sounded out by Monaco and other clubs last season and his angry reaction following the 2-2 draw with Ajax in the Champions League on Tuesday. There is also complete faith in the manager in the long term.
The view of the executive, which includes Khaldoon al-Mubarak, the chairman, and Ferran Soriano, the new chief executive, and is led by Sheikh Mansour, the owner, is relaxed regarding the approach to Mancini by Monaco and his subsequent statement that "seven [or] eight" clubs were interested in hiring him. They accept that, just as any number of City's star players may be of interest to other top clubs, so too is Mancini due to his status as one of the game's elite managers.
Regarding the scenes after the draw with Ajax at the Etihad Stadium, when Mancini approached the referee, Peter Rasmussen, to ask why Sergio Agüero's winner was wrongly ruled offside, there is understanding and sympathy for the manager's frustration, with Mario Balotelli also having what appeared a legitimate penalty appeal turned down at the end of the match.
David Platt is clear, too, that Mancini is "fine" and not feeling any pressure. The Italian did not give his normal Friday press conference before Sunday's visit of Tottenham Hotspur, though Platt said there was nothing untoward in this and that there was nothing wrong with the Italian's state of mind. "People make a great deal of it but he's fine," Platt said. "It's not the first time he's reacted in that way [after the Ajax game], not necessarily at Manchester City but even as a player.
"What he does, he has a great desire to win football matches, so his concentration is on winning matches. Its not: 'Oh, what's going on here, how can I stop this, what can I do?' He's not cold, he's not manipulative, in any way, he doesn't look at strategy with you boys [the media]. A lot was made the other week when he came in here – he didn't rant and rave [about Monaco], even though that was the way people wanted him to say it."
Platt believes the media in England present different challenges from those in Mancini's homeland. "It's easier in Italy because they listen to quotes and go and write them [rather than editorialise]," he said. "You start talking about a goldfish bowl [there] but it's easier. They accept people want to read football, rather than your [the journalists here] opinions."
City are the only unbeaten side in the Premier League and have conceded only nine goals, fewer than the leaders Manchester United and Chelsea in second, and Platt has the perfect way to refocus the squad for Spurs. "We could just put the league table up if we want," he said.
Mancini has a boost as David Silva is back in full training following a hamstring injury, though he may be only a substitute against Spurs. Joleon Lescott is also available after a back issue, while James Milner has started light work following his hamstring strain.

Brilliant. The Guardian get their scoop. Nobody loses face.

I wonder what certain elements of the board will say to this?

 

[cordonbleu]

I do not see how the replacement of an incompetent with a skilful could weaken those who have to work with that person

Easy. If someone is brought in at work who's better at certain aspects of your job than you, then you may no longer get control over whatever those aspects may be. If the club feel Txiki can handle certain things better than Bobby, things that Bobby would rather handle himself, then it weakens his position.

I would have hoped by now that Mancini has realised this club is having a DOF whether he likes it or not, and he won't be given Ferguson levels of control over transfers, so should just be happy he has a European big hitter on our side and get on with it.

I'm afraid you're upsetting reality. the reality is that Mancini was unhappy with Marwood's inability . and got it to be replaced by a more capable person.

then you can turn it as you like.

I don't think a creation of DOF and the replacement of Marwood could have had anything to do with Mancini. The club must have planned about changes to the management structure ages ago, perhaps around the time Bobby was communicating with Monaco.

A lack of any significant transfers in summer and the reshuffling in the executive office with the appointment of Soriano in August seems to have indicated that the appointment of Txiki had been planned all along to manage transfer/scouting business. Whichever you look at it, Bobby's power base has been much weakened by Txiki's appointment as Txiki will build his own infrastructure with more staff of his choice, and of course who we get have a direct impact on the way we play.

 

[The Future's Blue]

Glad someone has told him, Mancini think's he's got his head screwed on in Europe and that everything is the players fault, when evidently it isn't.

Any quotes to back this up?

''The players aren't good enough to play in this team, if they can't play my formation''
is that enough?

clearly Mancini has no idea of his own players strengths and weaknesses. he makes such a stupid comment, yeh HE bought them players.

end of topic.

Were they Mancini's words, did you hear him say that?

Without an 'Eeez' of course.

 

[Berkovic_blue]

Glad someone has told him, Mancini think's he's got his head screwed on in Europe and that everything is the players fault, when evidently it isn't.

Any quotes to back this up?

''The players aren't good enough to play in this team, if they can't play my formation''
is that enough?

clearly Mancini has no idea of his own players strengths and weaknesses. he makes such a stupid comment, yeh HE bought them players.

end of topic.

Yeah would prefer a link rather than taking your word for it thanks.

If you want the topic ended then try pm-ing a mod to lock the thread

 

[nehe11]

Mancini is the last manager in the world who should complain about transfers and how much he needs new players.

I doubt Mancini knew much about the Rodwell signing apart from telling Marwood he's better than nothing.

You doubt????, Roberto said himself he has been interested in Jack for 2 years, he and Platt used to watch him play for Everton on numerous occasions so he obviously knew who Jack was. Please don´t make assumptions without any facts backing your theory.

 

[Anonymous]

*Bullshit*

The irony in your contradictions is really giving me some brightness on this hungover morning.

So lets get this straight shall we - a story with NO QUOTES which says the board are unhappy with the CL performances and have told the manager so is ... to quote you ... bullshit.

But a story with NO QUOTES which says Mancini is "safe" IN NOVEMBER, when it matters not one jot, is so important you started a thread for it.

Hahahaha. I can't keep up!

 

[simon23]

*Bullshit*

The irony in your contradictions is really giving me some brightness on this hungover morning.

So lets get this straight shall we - a story with NO QUOTES which says the board are unhappy with the CL performances and have told the manager so is ... to quote you ... bullshit.

But a story with NO QUOTES which says Mancini is "safe" IN NOVEMBER, when it matters not one jot, is so important you started a thread for it.

Hahahaha. I can't keep up!

while i agree with you Billy....and in my opinion everything that the media prints shld be taken with a huge pinch of salt (infact i only listen to the interviews from managers and players), I HOPE its true......as changing managers (which is what you seem to want to happen ...forgive me if I am wrong) isnt the answer this time

Mancini is the right man for the job. He has already got us 3 pieces of silverwear int he last few seasons. At the moment we arent performing to our full potential and manicni himself has admitted that and has said the book stops with him. Im not sure what more you want?

Getting another manager is no guarantee of european success and I for one am happy at the moment with just being in europe.

And ignore all the frenzy that the media CREATE...as platt said, they want to create a picture/scene that isnt there...so what if RM went on the pitch the other night...it happens all the time with managers, so what if he had a go at the press the other week (he was right to do so).

Yes he has made tactical mistakes in games this season..there isnt a manager that doesnt occasionally do that.

We just need to keep on competing and it will come. Us city fans are famed for our patience with the team, supporting them through thick and thin as Im sure you have over the years just as I have and many others. But we must get away from this idea that changing managers is going to help as this time it wont...it will set us back a few years if anything....changing all the coaches, players in and out, giving the team time to settle bed in and the media circus starting its cycle again.......we dont change manager and there is no need for all that......we keep the spine of a very strong team and now a back room staff that is stronger than ever ( i wasnt a fan of marwood right from the beggining Im afraid) and lets just keep knocking at the door and pushing on

 

[The Future's Blue]

*Bullshit*

The irony in your contradictions is really giving me some brightness on this hungover morning.

So lets get this straight shall we - a story with NO QUOTES which says the board are unhappy with the CL performances and have told the manager so is ... to quote you ... bullshit.

But a story with NO QUOTES which says Mancini is "safe" IN NOVEMBER, when it matters not one jot, is so important you started a thread for it.

Hahahaha. I can't keep up!

No Billy Boy, this is nothing to do with quotes or articles written, this is my personal view laid against those stories.

We have a story that says Mancini was in the last throws of signing for Monaco yet the story fails when it mentions he flew out to Rome shortly after the Arsenal defeat to sort the finer points.

We played Arsenal on Sunday, Brom on Wednasday and then again at the weekend. We know he took training Monday and did an interview for CItyTV Tuesday, so which day did he spend flying around completing these finer details?

Like I say mate, it's not what I read, it's how I read it.

 

[VOOMER]

Also contrary the media stance, he went onto the pitch and diffused the situation by asking the ref fairly calmly (based on the his shameful performance), why he didn't give Sergio's goal, not the blatant penalty moments earlier. I guess with Mancini having such a *rap record as a manager and the fact that we have yet to win anything under his leadership is reason to, oh wait I forgot he has. Our new boys will know Pep very well as I'm sure they have a very good idea of Mancini's pedigree (because his record as a player and manager indicates he does). If Pep's plan all a long was to move to a much better paying job, without a changing leadership (which is still Barcelona's Achilles heel), plus a good transfer budget, then it could easily be PSG, let alone Chelsea, or us. If its a real "plan", then Pep coming to us, 100%, but it seems more like our owner hiring the best there is, in each role and we have a manager who he despite the vendetta brigade, has done to shabby a job since he got here.