Mancini you are gutless

These sort of posts lead to a good healthy debate, and on this one we seem to have come to an accord; stupid post!

A united side who 'came to get a win' were restricted to two half chances - nuff said.
 
I like Mancini but sometimes he is too defensive, fair enough the rags are a good side but they had a weakened squad and we failed to commit players forward when we had the chance. If we had taken the same approach as we did against Chelsea it would have been better e.g. pushing players harder on the ball when in midfield and not giving them any time on the ball, we also need to knock the ball around a lot quicker than we are at the moment; i'm not sure why we persist on passing the ball around the back or getting forward and then deciding to turn around and give it back to the defence continuously.
 
GStar said:
FC used to be a really good poster too, i'd always read what he had to say.
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watching mancini's football week in week out is getting to me. big time. bluemoon is the only place that loves the guy.
 
forevercity said:
GStar said:
FC used to be a really good poster too, i'd always read what he had to say.
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watching mancini's football week in week out is getting to me. big time. bluemoon is the only place that loves the guy.
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Could of swore I heard the whole of the away end chanting his name before we scored last week. You were asked what you would change and could only come up with some shite about yaya. Take some advice pal, give up now and retain a bit of dignity.
 
forevercity said:
GStar said:
FC used to be a really good poster too, i'd always read what he had to say.
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watching mancini's football week in week out is getting to me. big time. bluemoon is the only place that loves the guy.
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He must have been doing somethign right;

A. To get the Inter job
B. To win three titles (or were they given to him be default due to match fixing?)

I'm with you that the way we set up against the "bigger teams" or should i say the attitude we have towards these games is shite. We need a philosophy that we can adopt across the board. Do Chelsea/Barca/Utd/Inter/Real change setup so much depending on opponent? I don't think they do.

I've noticed under Hughes managers were openly talking about their fear of us attacking them on the break, we had "such speed" and "such talent" that managers we're more botherd about stopping us than playing to their own strengths.

We're now pedestrian like in attack and we don't even keep the ball and pull our opponents around the pitch as we did the first few games of the season.

The balance and setup is currently not right, Milner doesn't work out wide, Silva is most effective in the centre, Yaya should sit deeper imo.

But i want to give Mancini more time, Kolarov is just coming back as is Balotelli. He's running out of excuses as to why this temporary setup is continually being wheeled out each week. I guess being fourth its obviously not a disaster, but then again, we're cherry picking some of the world's best players... we should be turning teams over not making them look good each week.
 
GaudinoMotors said:
forevercity said:
watching mancini's football week in week out is getting to me. big time. bluemoon is the only place that loves the guy.
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Another stupid statement - you are on fire this morning !
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how is this? we sing mancini's name away to west brom because the west brom fans were having a go at him. my mate turned around and said "bluemoon will love this". come back here and its "ALL OUR FANS LOVE HIM" no we dont. some hate him, some love him and the vast majority (of home and away'ers) are unsure about him.

walking out of the ground last night, the fans were fuming with the display. come on here and he's hailed as some sort of winston churchill. unbelievable
 
Playing it safe is ok, since we clearly aren't trying to topple Chelsea and win the PL.

An all out assault may have cost us, the team were not built up for it at all. With Balotelli on the pitch it may have been different.

I wouldn't say gutless ... going All-In is not what we are ready for yet ... YET!
 
GStar said:
forevercity said:
watching mancini's football week in week out is getting to me. big time. bluemoon is the only place that loves the guy.
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He must have been doing somethign right;

A. To get the Inter job
B. To win three titles (or were they given to him be default due to match fixing?)

I'm with you that the way we set up against the "bigger teams" or should i say the attitude we have towards these games is shite. We need a philosophy that we can adopt across the board. Do Chelsea/Barca/Utd/Inter/Real change setup so much depending on opponent? I don't think they do.

I've noticed under Hughes managers were openly talking about their fear of us attacking them on the break, we had "such speed" and "such talent" that managers we're more botherd about stopping us than playing to their own strengths.

We're now pedestrian like in attack and we don't even keep the ball and pull our opponents around the pitch as we did the first few games of the season.

The balance and setup is currently not right, Milner doesn't work out wide, Silva is most effective in the centre, Yaya should sit deeper imo.

But i want to give Mancini more time, Kolarov is just coming back as is Balotelli. He's running out of excuses as to why this temporary setup is continually being wheeled out each week. I guess being fourth its obviously not a disaster, but then again, we're cherry picking some of the world's best players... we should be turning teams over not making them look good each week.
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great post mate.

i agree, he did great an inter. I just dont think he understands the prem, nearly 1 year in and he still thinks he can play this way.

he's making the same mistakes, week in week out and not learning. some guy made a thread the other week saying that we shouldnt judge him until he has his 1st 11 out. hang on a second, he hasnt took over blackpool or someone, he has took over a quality squad.

i dont understand his subs. what was there to gain from putting kolorov on last night? Only to give him minutes to get up to prem speed. Fine, but not in the last 15 mins of a manchester derby where they have a habit of scoring late on against us.

yaya, despite his fine display at the weekend clearly isnt working playing up there.

he is alienating AJ and Ade bigtime and doesnt get on with Tevez. Tevez and AJ are BIG BIG players for us, and ade, well we know what he CAN do.
 
Mancini is looking forward rather than one game at a time, if we got beat last night we are six points behind them. now we are still 3 points but are at home to Birmingham and they are at Villa. I thought we were more cautious than negative and the last thing I wanted was another defeat against them.
 
He's not gutless,he's cautious.To some blues he's over cautious.Depends what school of thought you prefer really.We could have Steve Davis who,whilst boring the pants off every fucker,wins titles or Jimmy White who entertains everyone but wins fuck-all.As much as I detest the old twat,baconface seems to be the only one who can combine flair with success.Mancini IS Steve Davis.He'll win us trophys' but we might have to overdose on redbull while we watch him do it.
 
God there really is no middle ground on here is there. Ofcourse we all want to win not just the derby but every game, but people need to take a step back. I agree that Mancini can play too defensively at times but he's our boss so we back him - end of! If we'd gone on to sneak a 1-0 yesterday people on here and some of the press would be saying he's a genius. If we'd lost in the last 10 mins people would have said 'bloody same old City when will we never learn"....the guy can't win.

If we were mid table then maybe people would have more of a point but we are in a healthy position and champs league looks very achievable, some people just have to moan I guess.
 
forevercity said:
GStar said:
He must have been doing somethign right;

A. To get the Inter job
B. To win three titles (or were they given to him be default due to match fixing?)

I'm with you that the way we set up against the "bigger teams" or should i say the attitude we have towards these games is shite. We need a philosophy that we can adopt across the board. Do Chelsea/Barca/Utd/Inter/Real change setup so much depending on opponent? I don't think they do.

I've noticed under Hughes managers were openly talking about their fear of us attacking them on the break, we had "such speed" and "such talent" that managers we're more botherd about stopping us than playing to their own strengths.

We're now pedestrian like in attack and we don't even keep the ball and pull our opponents around the pitch as we did the first few games of the season.

The balance and setup is currently not right, Milner doesn't work out wide, Silva is most effective in the centre, Yaya should sit deeper imo.

But i want to give Mancini more time, Kolarov is just coming back as is Balotelli. He's running out of excuses as to why this temporary setup is continually being wheeled out each week. I guess being fourth its obviously not a disaster, but then again, we're cherry picking some of the world's best players... we should be turning teams over not making them look good each week.
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great post mate.

i agree, he did great an inter. I just dont think he understands the prem, nearly 1 year in and he still thinks he can play this way.

he's making the same mistakes, week in week out and not learning. some guy made a thread the other week saying that we shouldnt judge him until he has his 1st 11 out. hang on a second, he hasnt took over blackpool or someone, he has took over a quality squad.

i dont understand his subs. what was there to gain from putting kolorov on last night? Only to give him minutes to get up to prem speed. Fine, but not in the last 15 mins of a manchester derby where they have a habit of scoring late on against us.

yaya, despite his fine display at the weekend clearly isnt working playing up there.

he is alienating AJ and Ade bigtime and doesnt get on with Tevez. Tevez and AJ are BIG BIG players for us, and ade, well we know what he CAN do.
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What on earth are you on about - what was wrong with bringiong Korolov on?
Yaya had a better game than you suggest - good runs but nitid marked up extremely well to deny him the outlets.
And now you go on about the non match topics - ie Johnson and Ade
Nitid were playing very well last night and when AJ came on and we lost the defensive aspect of Milner we looked more vulnerable.
Same mistakes week in week out??
4th in the league - beaten Liverpool and Chelsea - drawn with Sprus and Nitid (which we lost last year) - smell the roses a bit more - nothing is perfect but is getting and looking better. Give some credit.
 
bluemanhatton said:
forevercity said:
watching mancini's football week in week out is getting to me. big time. bluemoon is the only place that loves the guy.
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Could of swore I heard the whole of the away end chanting his name before we scored last week. You were asked what you would change and could only come up with some shite about yaya. Take some advice pal, give up now and retain a bit of dignity.
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I was there and yes we did sing his name. I back him at games and against other teams fans I stick up for him. But on an internet forum, im slagging him off, because he's far too defensive.
 
forevercity said:
what a clown he is, we went for the win, yeah right.

makes Pearce look like Mourinho
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Somebody has a very short memory. With the best plastic surgeons and the top geezers from Max Factor, Pee-arse could never look like Mourinho - not even if he bought a coat from Matalan.

And anyone who fancies taking on Gollum inside his own technical area ain't gutless.
 
forevercity said:
bluemanhatton said:
Could of swore I heard the whole of the away end chanting his name before we scored last week. You were asked what you would change and could only come up with some shite about yaya. Take some advice pal, give up now and retain a bit of dignity.
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I was there and yes we did sing his name. I back him at games and against other teams fans I stick up for him. But on an internet forum, im slagging him off, because he's far too defensive.
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A man of principle !
 
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